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Oops-silon (was: Rare Phonetics)

From:Justin Mansfield <jdm314@...>
Date:Tuesday, June 26, 2001, 18:02
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:05:19 +0000, Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>

>At 2:21 pm -0500 25/6/01, Danny Wier wrote: >>From: "Christophe Grandsire" <christophe.grandsire@...> >> >>| En réponse à Danny Wier <dawier@...>: >> >>| > French: nasal front mid-low rounded vowel [oe~] >>| >>| And don't forget the dreaded /H/ (inverted lowercase h, the
>>| equivalent of /y/) which exists in only a handful of languages all
over the
>>| world. >> >>That is also found in Abkhaz, and it was in Classical Greek (_huios_ >>"son", for >>example). > >On what evidence? > >As all other diphthongs were falling diphthongs in ancient Greek, I
>have thought [yj] is much more likely. Inscriptions show that from the
>6th cent. BC onwards the diphthong tends to monophthongize to written
>upsilon; this surely makes more sense if it was [yj] >> [y:], rather
>[Hi] >> [y:]? >
I agree. A better example would have been the word for gospel, which may have been pronounced [eHaNge_Hlion]... though there's some dispute as to whether the upilon was pronounced as [H] or [w] when used as an offglide... Justin
>Ray. > >========================================= >A mind which thinks at its own expense >will always interfere with language. > [J.G. Hamann 1760] >=========================================


Danny Wier <dawier@...>
Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>