Re: Ashamed of [T]? (fy: /T/ -> /t_d/?)

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 06:46:48 +0000, Jan van Steenbergen
<ijzeren_jan@...> wrote:

> --- Mark J. Reed skrzypszy:
>
>> I only added that as an aside in my post, whose primary purpose
>> was to ask why some Germans are "ashamed" to say [T]. Feeling
>> ashamed about producing a phone just strikes me as odd.  I still
>> don't understand it.
>
>In Dutch, [T] can only be heard in the speech of people with a speech
>defect. And I think that's the answer to your question. Even though
>the effect is not the same when Dutch people speak English, many of
>them are hesitant to use it even there. It's like the fear to get
>undressed before entering a sauna, even if you know that all the
>others are undressed, too. ;)
It's exactly the same in German - either th sound can only be heard from
people having a speech defect. As such, the sound is very undesirable, and
that's why I wrote a German would be rather *disgusted* by it (and certainly
not *ashamed*).

--
Pascal A. Kramm, author of Choton
official Choton homepage:
http://www.choton.org

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