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Re: Jovian's Verbs From Hell

From:bnathyuw <bnathyuw@...>
Date:Friday, August 30, 2002, 9:29
 --- Christian Thalmann <cinga@...> wrote: > ---
In conlang@y..., JS Bangs <jaspax@U...> wrote:
> > > Latin is evil? > > I only had two years of Latin, at which level it was > manageable, since > we hadn't looked at more than two or three verb > tenses. Recently, I > looked at the conjugation tables at the following > link, which > disclosed to me how truly evil the system was. So > many tense/mood/ > voice combinations! And all so similar-sounding! > =P >
and this makes latin evil ? what about greek ? . . . latin : greek tenses 6:7 present, imperfect, future, perfect, pluperfect, future perfect : present, future, imperfect, aorist, perfect, pluperfect, future perfect voices 2:3 active, passive : active, middle, passive finite moods 2:3 indicative, subjunctive : indicative, subjunctive, optative numbers 2:3 singular, plural : singular, dual, plural also, greek has participles and infinitives for every aspect of every voice ( plus futures ) and imperatives for every aspect of every voice ( i can't remember about futures, but i don't think so ) to latin's four principal parts ( with the first two being the same stem ) greek has six, all independent to some extent ( partly down to the fact that many passive stems are entirely different from the active ones — the middle hovers between the two ) then you have athematic verbs and tenses so you get to practice your internal sandhi and finally, greek allows you to form verbs using the verb |eimí|, to be, and a participle makes latin seem straightforward !
> > However, now that I've defined the past tense based > on the Latin > imperfect, I find myself disliking the length of > those forms -- > perfects would consequently shave off a syllable. > Ah, well... >
you could use the poetic perfect ( drop the v and elide . . . not sure whether all these forms are real, but you could standardise ) pf ind ama: ama:sti ama:t ama:mus ama:stis ama:re ppf ind ama:ram . . . pf subj ama:rem . . . ppf subj ama:ssem . . . pf inf ama:sse you get a lot of homophony, but i like that (!) bn __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts