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Re: [wEr\ Ar\ ju: fr6m] ?

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Monday, November 12, 2001, 13:35
En réponse à Almaran Dungeonmaster <dungeonmaster@...>:

> > :)) And doesn't your mum tell you that the civilised way of > > speaking includes > > using /G/ instead of /x/ (voiced instead of voiceless)? :))) > > That's dialect from Limburg ([`lIm.b6.r@G]) or Brabant ([`bra.bAnt]), > and > not commonly used in Hollands dutch (spoken in the big cities).
What do you call Eindhoven then? :)) Only
> southeners used the "soft g" as we call it...
A mistake I've seen commonly among Dutch people is this misconception. First, if you add the Flemish, who also have a soft g, you get quite a lot of people pronouncing the g "soft". Second, I've listened to many Dutch people from many parts of the Netherlands, and the only one I've heard until now that really has a hard g is from Friesland! All the others, despite their claims, naturally pronounce soft g's, except at the end of words (where consonnants get unvoiced anyway). And all grammars of Dutch I've read consider the so-called soft g as standard, and the hard g as a peculiarity of some Northern dialects (the same for 'ij' pronounced /Ej/ or /aj/). Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.

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