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Re: imagining language(s)

From:Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Monday, May 8, 2000, 5:18
At 9:51 pm +1200 7/5/00, andrew wrote:
>Am 05/07 06:50 Raymond Brown yscrifef:
>rathter than a province. The British in this history might not be >dependent on imperial forces to protect them and might have kept the >Angles out. > > >> Oh yes, and in this world, there'd have been no Brithenig either ;) > >No, but there might have been a Brythonic language with a Anglo-saxon >superstrata spoken across southern Britain.
Alas, only if the Britons had a change of character, I think. They were never united and had this disastrous habit of bringing in outsiders to help get the better of their neighbors. That's how the Romans got involved in the first place *here*; some guy called Catauellaunus IIRC was making a nuisance of himself and Brits in neighboring 'tribes' called in the Romans to sort him out. A few centuries later king Vortigern called in Saxon mercenaries to help him keep fellow Britons in check. The trouble, the Brits found out, is that these foreigners tend to hang around, are generally more organized than the quarreling Brits & eventually take over the place. Indeed, if north Gaul became a semi-hellenized buffer state, you get bet your last dollar that at some stage one Brit tribe or other would've got the Hellenic Federation (or Empire) to intervene in internal quarels. Maybe a Greek derived language with strong Brittonic undertones? :) Ray. PS - I'm not getting involved in central Asia - I'll leave that to Jonathan - it was his idea, after all :) ========================================= A mind which thinks at its own expense will always interfere with language. [J.G. Hamann 1760] =========================================