Re: my phonology
From: | # 1 <salut_vous_autre@...> |
Date: | Thursday, January 6, 2005, 5:27 |
Henrik Theiling wrote:
># 1 <salut_vous_autre@...> writes:
> > I would like to show the phonology of my conlang to get commentaries
>
>What's the design goal for this? To know it would help for making
>comments.
what do you mean? it is to be used for a consize conlang. Is that your
question?
>I'll simply make some general, arbitrary comments for now.
>
> > bilab labioden alveo postalveo pala velar uvular glot
> >
> > aspirated 2 2 2 0 0 2 0 0
> > plosives
> >
> > unaspirated 2 2 2 2 0 2 2 1
> > plosives
>
>Postalveolar plosives seem to be innovative. They are distinguishable
>from alveolar for me, but not easily. I'd go for retroflex to make
>them more distinguishable, since there is nothing close to retroflex
>in your inventory.
Yes it would be simpler I'll think about it
> > fricatives 2 2 2 2 0 2 2 1
>
>Few languages distinguish velar and uvular fricatives, although some
>exist: e.g., natlang: Inuktitut/Kalaallisut, conlang: Qthen|gai (:-)).
>There was a thread started by John, our former Lord of Instrumentality
>(BTW: who is it now?), discussing velar vs. uvular fricatives.
Only a few languages? I don't know, for me they seem different but it is
maybe that by peaking frensh I know the uvular voiced fricative and that I
can easily notice that the other is different. Anyway, it must not be much
similar for others...
> > affricates 2 2 2 2 0 2 2 1
>
>Glottal affricates. I like that, since a conlang sketch of mine (S6)
>had it.
Yes I like it too, it sounds special for the earers
> > nasals 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 0
>
>I cannot distinguish postalveolar nasals from alveolar ones. Again,
>I'd go for retroflex instead. And velar vs. uvular nasal is somewhat
>difficult, too. (Colloquial Kalaallisut seems to have that contrast,
>however.)
yes... in fact it is only a mistake I wanted to place the 1 on the palatal
columnnot in the post-alveolar one. That way, the palatal column is totally
empty and useless, that's because there is only the nasal in it.
> >...
> > ejec/implo 2 0 2 0 0 2 0 0
> >...
> > There are also the voiced and unvoiced linguo-labial plosives
>
>Why no palatals? (I mean, I don't especially like their sound, but my
>L1 contains a few, and Icelandic, which I like a lot, so why not?).
My mother tongue also has 2 palatals [J] and [j] and, as you probably read
higher, there's the [J] in my phonology that I had forgot
>Again, I don't know your design goal, so these are just unfiltered
>thoughts.
ho these are okay :)
Thanks for these commentaries
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