Re: THEORY: Case stacking; was: Re: THEORY: genitive vs. construct case/izafe
From: | Keith Gaughan <kmgaughan@...> |
Date: | Tuesday, July 26, 2005, 13:56 |
Julia "Schnecki" Simon wrote:
> On 7/23/05, tomhchappell <tomhchappell@...> wrote:
>
>>--- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg_rhiemeier@W...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Exactly. But more precisely, it is the construct _state_, because
>>> the modified noun can be, in languages with case systems such as
>>> Classical Arabic, of any case.
>>
>> It seems to me that "This is a Job for Case-Stacking!"
>> Are "genitive phrases" the most typical place to find case-stacking
>> in languages that allow case-stacking?
>
> Quite possibly. The only natlang I know that has anything that could
> be called "case stacking" is Sumerian, and all the case-stacking
> examples I have (um, all the both of them; see below) involve at least
> one genitive.
<pokes head in>
To bring up a conlang example, my Térnaru, partly because of how I
accidently stumbled across triggers, stacks its trigger particles to
express various things, including reflexion. I don't think it's quite
the same as what Sumerian does, but here's an example of what I'm
talking about (grabbed from my site):
(3) an-a-Lídu íl ták
ACT-PAT-Lídu PST hit
"Lídu hit himself"
> é lugal-ak "the king's house" ("house king-of"); SeS lugal-ak "the
> king's brother ("brother king-of")
>
> -> é lugal-ak-a "in the king's house" ("house king-of-in")
> -> é SeS lugal-ak-ak-a "in the king's brother's house" ("house brother
> king-of-of-in")
Cool!
K.