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Re: OT: Spanish pronouns ("usted", etc.)

From:Eric Christopherson <rakko@...>
Date:Friday, May 18, 2007, 3:14
On May 17, 2007, at 7:40 PM, Alex Fink wrote:
> On Thu, 17 May 2007 19:15:02 -0500, Eric Christopherson > <rakko@...> > wrote: >> Is that a mainstream interpretation of the allophones? As I >> understand it, etymologically, "se lo" etc. come from ILLI ILLUM etc. >> by mostly regular sound changes, without avoidance of cacophony as a >> "motivation". On the other hand, if at some point both *"le lo" and >> "se lo" were available to speakers, they might commonly choose "se >> lo" for that reason. > > Just sound change? That's surprising. How does ILLI ILLUM > generate an /s/?
Roughly like this: ILLI ILLUM [eljelo] > [ljelo] > [Lelo] > gelo [Zelo] > [Selo] > se lo [selo] Normally, of course, [S] > [x] instead of [s]. I suppose maybe the [s] outcome was influenced by the existence of the pronoun "se". (It's been a while since I read about the development of Spanish. I probably should have consulted my books before asking here, but oh well.)

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