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Re: Case question

From:Nik Taylor <yonjuuni@...>
Date:Thursday, November 27, 2003, 8:11
"Mark J. Reed" wrote:
> > Two-case systems such that one case is used for S and the other for A and P. > > That seems really, really . . . wrong. What natlangs do that??
Iranian does it in the past tense. Historically, what happened was that, like the other Indo-Iranian langs, the past tense is historically derived from a passive. Thus, in the past tense, the S and P were marked with one case, historically derived from the nominative (and the same case used for S and A in present), while the A was marked with another case, historically derived from genitive. Due to sound changes, that case merged with the accusative, and thus you had the following system: Present Past S Nominative Nominative A Nominative Accusative P Accusative Nominative By analogy with the present, the P in past tense changed to Accusative, creating the current system: Present Past S Nominative Nominative A Nominative Accusative P Accusative Accusative Some related languages have since changed A in past to Nominative as well, also by analogy with present, thus restoring it to a sane system. -- "There's no such thing as 'cool'. Everyone's just a big dork or nerd, you just have to find people who are dorky the same way you are." - overheard ICQ: 18656696 AIM Screen-Name: NikTaylor42

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