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Re: USAGE: rhoticity [was Re: The [??] attribute]

From:Nihil Sum <nihilsum@...>
Date:Thursday, September 12, 2002, 23:34
Thomas R. Wierrrrrrr, Quoting Christophe Grandsire
<christophe.grandsire@F...>:

>>But take any final |-er| from any word in some rhotic >>dialect of English (mostly American) and you have an example >>of a syllabic r.
>I think this is only true on the phonemic level. Phonetically, >a final <-er> sequence is a retroflex schwa.
Here, final -er sounds the same as the vowel in "earn", "burn", "curve", "heard" etc. But it also sounds the same as the way we say the consonant r. Christophe called this a "syllabic r", which makes sense. I think this r relates to the "er" sound the same way that consonant y relates to the "ee" (i:) sound. I try saying these: yyyyyyyyes, rrrrrrrrright. So: is the y consonant just a very short i-glide before the vowel? Likewise, is the r consonant sound* just a very short "er" glide before the next vowel? * You know I'm referring only to one r sound. There are different versions of r in different dialects of English. Of course, this doesn't apply to accents that don't use the "er" sound. I think that's what is meant by "non-rhotic", but I'm not familiar with the term. Nil _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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