Re: 'Yemls Grammar

On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 23:55:01 -0400, Jeffrey Jones <jsjonesmiami@...>
wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:08:40 -0700, Sylvia Sotomayor <terjemar@...>
>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I looked.
>
>Hi Sylvia,
>Your comments are timely -- this is the last night I'll have regular
>internet access. And my computer will be going into storage tomorrow.
>
>> I like the way you define all your terms, even if the definitions are
>> sktetchy. I need to do more of that.
>
>I do try to define things, because I sometimes make up my own terms or
>misuse existing terms or because not everybody reading it will know the
>terms.
>
>> I also like that 'YemIs has incorporation. I hope you'll let me know
>> when you have something more to put into that section. Incorporation is
>> one of the few cool things I haven't put into Kelen, so I have to
>> experience it vicariously through other conlangs. :-)
>
>The reason I haven't said much is because I don't know enough about
>incorporation in general to figure out how it works in 'Yemls. When/if I
>come up with anything less vague, I'll definitely let you know, when I can.
I just reread the grammar, and I'm surprised I was able to say even that
much. I still don't understand natlang incorporation very well. But
in 'Yemls, let's say we have words for hunt, with Argument Structure A P c,
and for tigers, with a single argument (the subject). If (tigers) is
incorporated by (hunt), we have (hunt-tigers), with *proposed* Argument
Structure A - c. In this proposal, the P argument for (hunt) is deleted,
not just the redundant subject argument of (tigers). No arguments have been
added. Now, the P-argument could be restored with the {A} prefix (I think).
Then you could say something like "I hunt-tigers Fred."

Just my current thoughts. I don't when I'll get back to all this ...

Jeff

>
>>-Sylvia
>>
>>On 9/20/05, Jeffrey Jones <jsjonesmiami@...> wrote:
>>> If anybody besides Tom C has looked at this, I've uploaded some more
>>> material and made some changes. I expect that will be it for a while.
>>>
>>> Happy Conlanging!
>>> --
>>> Jeff Jones
>>>
>>> On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 19:22:52 -0400, Jeffrey Jones
><jsjonesmiami@...>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > For those who don't mind the appearance of upper/mixed case letters :)
>>> > here's a partially complete updated grammar of 'Yemls:
>>> > http://home.earthlink.net/~jeffsjones/conlang/Yemls/Introd.htm
>>> >
>>> > Most of it's morphology so far, but that includes some recent
>additions,
>>> > like the distinction between indefinite and definite perfectives, and
>one
>>> > or two temporal point of reference suffixes. These single-mora
suffixes
>>> > each take the place of some hypothetical adverb. The suffix to make
>>> > nominoids act like static verboids has been modified.
>>> >
>>> > Incidentally, one of the things that helped me clean up the pages was
>>> > settling on grammatical terms, although the ones I used may be
>completely
>>> > non-standard.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Nameless
>>> > {i: ViDf d But YOSELTfTV-i.} "I saw that person who has never to this
>day
>>> > sung for me."
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Sylvia Sotomayor
>>terjemar@gmail.com
>>www.terjemar.net
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