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(CHAT) Re: English syllable structure

From:Roger Mills <romilly@...>
Date:Tuesday, December 11, 2001, 22:23
And Rosta wrote:
>Because, relatively speaking, there is. Accent differences within the >USA are relatively trivial when compared to Accent differences within >Britain. Similarly, differences among Southern Hemisphere English and >South Eastern England are comparatively trivial. In addition, "American >English pronunciation" is normally understood to mean the accent >called "General American", just as "British English pronunciation" is >normally understood to mean RP. Those are the hegemonic accents within >the respective countries.
An eminentily sensible comment. We should all read, mark, learn and inwardly digest it. As an aside-- you wrote earlier:
> In English English _Nicaragua_ and _jaguar_ rhyme in /&gju:@/. > /nIk@'r&gw@/ or (god help us!) /nIk@'rA:gw@/ would sound insufferably
pretentious... Some segments of the US population regard an English (RP) accent as insufferably pretentious, effete if not effeminate, condescending etc. etc. (at least, not ignorant; that's what other furrin accents are). Less so now than in the past, but... Frankly, I've never quite understood this. That view even extended (in the provincial midwest where I grew up) to the East Coast US accent, characterized by [t@mAto] not [t@meito]. At least one of the reasons FDR was viewed so askance. Otherwise, our exposure to non-local accents was limited to the movies we saw about life in NYC, where the nice people spoken General American, the cabbies spoke Brooklynese, and the wealthy fancy-pants said tomAto and dropped their r's. I recall one movie where an art-dealer or museum-curator type referred to a [vA:z] (vase [veis])-- it brought down the house.