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Re: Ant: Palatovelars

From:# 1 <salut_vous_autre@...>
Date:Sunday, June 5, 2005, 4:51
Steven Williams wrote:

>--- John Vertical <johnvertical@...> schrieb: > > Sooo... anyone ever heard/thought of palatovelar > > consonants? I do not mean palatalized velars / > > velarized palatals, but rather a place of > > articulation between these two. Central vowels are > > all common and good, but they never seem to have > > even any corresponding semivowels, let alone > > obstruents? > >There is a palatovelar semivowel, namely, [H] (the >initial consonant in the French /huite/ [Hit] or the >Mandarin Chinese /yuen/ [HVn]). Now, this can be seen >as a palatalized [w], but it's definitely a >smoothly-pronounced palatovelar semivowel, at least as >far as I hear...
Isn't [H] a labialized palatal? I think that [H] is to [j] what [y] is to [i], exactly the same but with rounded lips I think also that [w] is also only a labialised [M\] None of those are palatovelar, it would glides for [1] and [}] but I don't think such glides would be analysed as palatovelars but maybe as [j_q] and [H_q] - Max


Steven Williams <feurieaux@...>Ant: Re: Ant: Palatovelars