Re: Ant: Palatovelars

Steven Williams wrote:

>--- John Vertical <johnvertical@...> schrieb:
> > Sooo... anyone ever heard/thought of palatovelar
> > consonants? I do not mean palatalized velars /
> > velarized palatals, but rather a place of
> > articulation between these two. Central vowels are
> > all common and good, but they never seem to have
> > even any corresponding semivowels, let alone
> > obstruents?
>
>There is a palatovelar semivowel, namely, [H] (the
>initial consonant in the French /huite/ [Hit] or the
>Mandarin Chinese /yuen/ [HVn]). Now, this can be seen
>as a palatalized [w], but it's definitely a
>smoothly-pronounced palatovelar semivowel, at least as
>far as I hear...
Isn't [H] a labialized palatal? I think that [H] is to [j] what [y] is to
[i], exactly the same but with rounded lips

I think also that [w] is also only a labialised [M\]

None of those are palatovelar, it would glides for [1] and [}] but I don't
think such glides would be analysed as palatovelars but maybe as [j_q] and
[H_q]

- Max

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