Theiling Online    Sitemap    Conlang Mailing List HQ   

Re: sound changes (was Conlangea Dreaming)

From:Roger Mills <romilly@...>
Date:Saturday, October 14, 2000, 4:28
Christophe (I think) wrote:
>> Sometimes I really wonder if the language that I learn in the classroom >> is going to be any good for communication with Real People who are L1 >> speakers of that language. >
Robert Hailman wrote:
>I've found from my German & French Education that it really doesn't - I >may know the Vocab & the Grammar, but when it comes out of Someone's >Mouth, I just get lost. It's not as perfectly structured as the >Sound-Bites we're fed in School, and Real Germans and Real Frenchmen >speak far too fast for me to understand them.>
That was certainly my experience with Spanish, years ago when the emphasis was on reading; plus my teachers in highschool and first two years of college were all Americans. I dropped out for a while, returned several years later to another school where I was confronted with a Galician, a Cuban, 2 Madileños and a total ban on English in class or written work. What a difference. I think it is testimony to the quality of Wolff's Indonesian textbook, 2 Indonesian teachers, and modern emphasis on the spoken language-- when I stepped off the plane in Jakarta I had no problems whatsoever. Of course the language is a 2d lang. for most Indonesians too, so perhaps that helps. Out in the provinces, regional accents sometimes did me in-- one time I completely mis-heard "talipoña" and wondered why I was being asked about California-- several angry repetitions later he pointed to the telephone, "telpon-nya" in standard........Duuh.