Re: CHAT: t-shirt

On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Raymond Brown wrote:

> At 8:24 pm -0400 22/9/00, nicole perrin wrote:
> >So, I guess there's still some definite interest in the t-shirt thing.
> >So I'll definitely do it.  As for the auxlang policy...well, right now
> >I'm just not sure what to do about it.
>
> The simplest solution is to have only conlangs constructed by members of
> this list, whatever sort of conlang it is.
>
> [snip]
> >
> >PS -- For those who are new and don't know about the first t-shirt
> >attempt, it happened about 9-10 months ago, and everyone submitted the
> >aforementioned sentence in his/her conlang to be put on the shirt.  But
> >people wanted auxlangs and natlangs, and things got ugly.
>
> I never understood why any natlang should be included - better to leave
> them off IMHO.
I also bet you probably *could* find natlang t-shirts out there
infinitely more easily than conlang t-shirts.  :-p

> I understood that Fabian (I think that was the original proposer's name)
> wanted to included the 'classic' conlangs that many in the non-conlanging
> world might have heard about or come across, i.e. Esperanto, Tolkien's
> Quenya & Sindarin, and Klingon.  But, of course, the proposed inclusion of
> Esperanto was, alas, bound to inflame auxlangers!  Sad.
<puzzled look>  I'm not sure how including Esperanto would anger
auxlangers, but then, I don't follow the auxlang scene.  It's too much
fun devising not-for-international-communications artlangs and learning
varied natlangs.  The vowel harmony in Turkish is just too neat.  :-)

[snip]
> I guess, as I said above, that the only way to avoid this happening again
> is to confine the languages on the T-shirt solely and strictly to languages
> invented/devised by list members.  Personally, I think it sad we can't
> include the "classics" - and even sadder that we shan't then, as was
> originally intended, have Quenya written in Tengwar & SolReSol in _music
> notation_ on the shirt.  <deep sigh>
A pity--I wouldn't mind seeing Quenya and SolReSol (have heard of but
never seen the latter).  :-(  OTOH those senior to me on the list
(...about everyone) know more than I do about the situation.

YHL
who wouldn't *mind* seeing Chevraqis on the t-shirt, but doesn't feel any
particular need to see it on the t-shirt, and would buy a t-shirt either
way because conlanging is just neat