Re: CHAT: t-shirt

Padraic Brown wrote:
>
> On Sun, 24 Sep 2000, The Gray Wizard wrote:
>
> >Perhaps, but this sentiment resulted in the demise of the entire project
> >last time.  Which is preferable, a T-shirt with many conlangs from this list
> >as well as Quenya, Sindarin and perhaps SolReSol, or no T-shirt at all
> >because we couldn't agree which of the auxlangs ought to be included?  I
> >think the auxlang bigots win in the latter case as well.
> >
> [...]
> >
> >If we were capable of making rational distinctions among auxlangs, we would
> >already have a shirt.  We couldn't accomplish this last time.  If cooler
> >heads prevail this time, I'm all for giving it a try, but I think we should
> >resolve to exclude all auxlangs as soon as a flammable controversy raises
> >its ugly head.
>
> Perhaps what's needed is a tshirt coordinator that can tell these
> punks to get bent.
Yup, and that's me! ;)

Seriously though, I think the most important things are, as follows:

1)  That the t-shirt gets made
2)  That any and all languages worked on or made by conlang list members
are included if     the member so wishes
3)  That "classic" conlangs get included -- Quenya, Sindarin, Klingon
(but isn't the     lexicon completely copyright protected), SolReSol,
perhaps Bala-i-balan if possible

Anti-auxlangers please take special note of #2 -- if a list member has
created or significantly contributed to the creation of an auxlang I
think this should be included.  Members of the conlang list should have
input on the conlang list t-shirt.

Also, I think it's useless to start any petty arguments about Esperanto
this Esperanto that.  Personally, I think Esperanto should be included
because of it's impact as a conlang on the man-on-the-street, but I also
understand that its inclusion will only cause more flaming.  As the
semi-official coordinator, I would just like to say that absolutely no
auxlangs not created by list members will be eligible for inclusion.
No, this does not include SolReSol, as calling SolReSol an auxlang would
be bordering on farcical.  So, it would be appreciated if discussion of
this point could be halted right now before it kills the project.  I
think we can do without that.

Well, I'm going to start looking into how much it's going to cost us to
print these and where the best place to do so is.  If anyone has
suggestions for the sentence on the shirt, please email me (come on
guys, I know you're all creative enough to come up with *something*).

Nicole