En réponse à Adrian Morgan <morg0072@...>:
>
> You would have preferred the old stress-marking system, I think.
> Slightly more Maggellish.
>
> If a stressed nucleus was followed by a consonant cluster or consonant
> digraph, then under the old system you put a 'h' after the cluster.
> This meant that stress was frequently marked inside the syllable
> /after/ the one that was stressed! Also, if a stressed nucleus was
> followed by a consonant and then the end of the word, you appended a
> 'h' to the word instead of doubling the consonant.
>
> (e.g. the old "evolved" was "eovolvdh")
>
Nice! Nice!! Nice!!! <jumps, bounces and rebounds in Tigger-like fashion ;))))>
> I changed it mostly to make it easier for feeble English brains to add
> affixes without shuffling 'h's around, but I had reservations about
> doing so mostly because I don't like the look of double 'v' either at
> the end of a word or before another consonant.
Well, I don't find it that bad. Teonaht uses the doubling feature to indicate
stress and it makes its words look quite neat :)) .
I also rather liked the
> vaguely Gaelic feel created by all those extra 'h's.
>
It's true that your whole scheme has a vague Gaelic feel to it :)) . Niceness.
>
> Erm, no :-) Note the words _"a few"_ in the above paragraph :-)
>
Yep, but Maggelity is not only about abundance of exceptions. It's also about
strange looking regularities ;)))) .
>
> Generally speaking I don't like the look of languages that have lots
> of double vowels everywhere like "aa", "ee", etc (e.g. Dutch). "O" was
> the best choice for a lengthening vowel because it doesn't appear at
> the end of many diphthongs, and besides, there are English precedents
> e.g. "people".
>
:((( I thought Maggel could have influenced in this case (LOL, Maggel
influencing a spelling reform of English ;))))) ).
>
> I like |i| for /@/ because in my opinion a simple, neutral shape such
> as a vertical stroke is a good shape for a schwa. Gzarondan also has
> |i| for /@/, incidentally.
>
I agree. I've always found using |a| (which normally marks the most open vowel
there can be) for /@/ extremely strange, quite antinomic.
>
> I wanted something that never appears as two seperate consonants
> (like "th" does in "pothole"), and then it was a straightforward step
> to the idea that a digraph with a fricative should *still* be a
> fricative and a digraph with a nasal should *still* be a nasal.
>
True enough.
> >
> > If what is a digraph? And where would the first |h| or |y| come from
> if you
> > have to double them?
>
> Well, like "unhash" would be _unhahhs_.
>
Aaaaaah! Now I understand.
> >
> > "Implicit consonant"?
>
> The implicit [j] in the above examples, for example. Light consonants
> that are normally not marked.
>
You mean you pronounce "chaos" as [k_hEIjOs]?
>
> No, if they're different words then they're spelt differently.
>
Too bad, I liked those pairs (reminds me that I have to make that a feature in
Maggel :))) )...
>
> That, as I said, is an exaggeration (oh wait, you included the word
> "can")
> but I am glad you like it :-)
>
Thanks! And as I said, I didn't say that your system was Maggelish (too regular
for that), but it had a strong Maggelish potential :)) . Add a few silent
letters, strange conventions, and some irregularities and you have a good
Maggelish candidate :)) .
Christophe.
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