Hungarian and Slavonic (was: Codename "de")

Frank George Valoczy ta nugatu-r:

[...]

>> I guessed but I meant the pronunciation -- you wrote [e'], [a'] instead of
>> [e:], [a:]. By the way, can you describe me all Hungarian vowels?
> Aha I understand what you're saying. In the square brackets where I wrote
> the pronunciation I did indeed use [e:] and [a:], only my ascii-ification
> of the Hungarian orthography used the _e'_ and _a'_.
What about Hungarian vowels?

[...]

>> I have just seen it but what you mean? Are _tátra_, _mátra_ and _fátra_
>> Hungarian words or Slavonic words? I was looking for this but... _nincs
>> találat_. :)
> I have no clue what they are; they don't have any meaning in Hungarian
> apart from being names for the mountains so I would guess they are
> Slavonic, but even then it must be something unique to West Slavonic
> because I can't think of any cognates in Serbian.
Aleksander Brückner "Sl/ownik etymologiczny je,zyka polskiego":

*Tatry* [...] we,gierska postac' nazwy 'gór' (_tatra_), zwanych u Sl/owian
_tertrami_ (_montes Tritri_ u Koz'my praskiego około r. 1120), a na Rusi
_tol/trami_).

*Tatras* [...] a Hungarian form of a 'mountains' name (_tatra_), called by
Slavs _tertry_ (_montes Tritri_ in Kosmas of Praha, ca. 1120) and in
Ruthenia _toltry_.

So, I think of: Hungarian < Slavonic [< something pre-Slavonic].

> Gah, this took me so long to type, making typos left right and center -
> over the past few weeks I've gotten so used to the keyboard on the
> Commodore C=64 that this "normal" PC keyboard looks like a disaster. :)
C-64?! What did you do?

--

 /\   P. M. Arktayg               mailto:pmva@avenned.com   /\
 \/       "rubba s.idqin ka:na ’akd_aba min kid_bin"        \/
\/\/  'często prawda jest bardziej kłamliwa niż kłamstwo'  \/\/

Reply