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OT: t > h (was: What makes a good conlang? (was Re: Super OT: Re: CHAT : JRRT)

From:And Rosta <a.rosta@...>
Date:Friday, March 12, 2004, 18:27
David Peterson:
> Trebor wrote: > > <<As an aside, which is more reasonable (or are they all possible)? > t -> l > t -> h > t -> ?>> > > Simple answer: /t/ > [?]. However, for this to be a unilateral change > would be very strange. This is a sound change of English, though.
> > Anyway, /t/ going directly to [h] is totally unrealistic. I can't see it > happen.
People are probably sick of my pointing out that this or that bit of linguistic exotica or impossibilia occurs in one dialect or another of English... But here goes anyway: /t/ goes to [h] in the Scouse dialect of English when (a) word final and not followed by a vowel and (b) either in /@t/ or in high frequency words like "but, not, get, got". /p/ and /k/ do not behave similarly in this regard.
> I kind of think of /h/ and /?/ as the end of the line. Once a > phoneme has evolved to either /h/ or /?/, all it can do is disappear.
Or give birth to baby phonemes through coalescence. E.g. /?/ might give rise to phonemic creaky vowels or ejective stops. /h/ might create a new series of voiceless spirants. --And.


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