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Re: OT: t > h (was: What makes a good conlang? (was Re: Super OT: Re: CHAT : JRRT)

From:Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Saturday, March 13, 2004, 6:37
On Friday, March 12, 2004, at 05:26 PM, And Rosta wrote:

> David Peterson: >> Trebor wrote: >> >> <<As an aside, which is more reasonable (or are they all possible)? >> t -> l >> t -> h >> t -> ?>> >> >> Simple answer: /t/ > [?]. However, for this to be a unilateral change >> would be very strange. This is a sound change of English, though. > [...] >> >> Anyway, /t/ going directly to [h] is totally unrealistic. I can't see >> it >> happen.
When you've met as many natlangs as I have in my time, you will realize that it is very rash to say that some is "totally unrealistc".
> People are probably sick of my pointing out that this or that bit > of linguistic exotica or impossibilia occurs in one dialect or > another of English... But here goes anyway:
[snip] Nor do you just have to make do with a Brit English dialect for an example either. The change from [t] to [h] did happen in Gaelic. In Scots Gaelic it's spelled |th| and also in Irish when written in standard modern Roman letters; but in the Irish alphabet it's just |t| wih a dot on it. It's true not all instances of /t/ went this way, but those subject to 'soft mutation' did. The steps are: [t] --> [t_h] --> [T] --> [h] Ray =============================================== http://home.freeuk.com/ray.brown ray.brown@freeuk.com (home) raymond.brown@kingston-college.ac.uk (work) =============================================== "A mind which thinks at its own expense will always interfere with language." J.G. Hamann, 1760