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Re: CHAT: Names, was: Re: Brithenig-heads

From:BP Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Monday, April 24, 2000, 18:37
At 11:12 23.4.2000 -0400, John Cowan wrote:

> > BTW, I'm not uneducated, I can talk "normally", it's just that I'm quite > > attached to my accent. > >So should we all be, IMNSHO.
I fully agree! Non-standard speakers everywhere unite!
>Other people have trouble understanding >me when I say "milk" [ml<vcl>k], but I cling to this pronunciation >nevertheless.
I cling to pronunciations like [vAm.t] and [m-uk.t] for _varmt_ and _mörkt_ NEUT.SG. of "warm" and "dark" respectively, despite the fact that in standard Swedish /r/ and a following dental must be contiguous for retroflexion to occur. Somebody told me I shouldn't use them because they are hard to pronounce. Not for me, they aren't! :-) I also cling to realizing /l/ as a retroflex flap [.r] after labials -- *especially* since I discovered that it is an idiolectal thing. I guess I picked it up from someone as a kid, but I'm the only now living person I know who has this distribution. In Swedish dialects [.r] for /l/ generally or as a phoneme derived from older *rð [rD] is quite common, but contextually constrained distribution is rare. /BP B.Philip Jonsson mailto:bpj@netg.se mailto:melroch@my-deja.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~__ Anant' avanaute quettalmar! \ \ __ ____ ____ _____________ ___ __ __ __ / / \ \/___ \\__ \ /___ _____/\ \\__ \\ \ \ \\ \ / / / / / / / \ / /Melroch\ \_/ // / / // / / / / /___/ /_ / /\ \ / /Melarocco\_ // /__/ // /__/ / /_________//_/ \_\/ /Eowine__ / / \___/\_\\___/\_\ I neer Pityancalimeo\ \_____/ /ar/ /_atar Mercasso naan ~~~~~~~~~Cuinondil~~~\_______/~~~\__/~~~Noolendur~~~~~~ || Lenda lenda pellalenda pellatellenda cuivie aiya! || "A coincidence, as we say in Middle-Earth" (JRR Tolkien)