Re: OT: A project
From: | Michael Poxon <m.poxon@...> |
Date: | Thursday, September 13, 2001, 13:36 |
Dear Nik,
Does anyone know of a usable IPA font? Your communication came through with,
I suspect, the phonemic symbol for the consonant sound in "church" as a
lowercase t followed by an uppercase s, so I'll stick with this
transcription. The existence of /tS/ and /dZ/ does not necessarily depend on
the non-affricates /S/ and /Z/, but can also proceed from simple
palatalisation of /t/ and /d/. Certain South Wales dialects show this
strongly, for example I can recall "Dic Penderyn"
/dik penderin/ articulated as /dZik pendZerin/. Cornish also has /tS/
without /S/, so does Basque (the sound written s in that language is not a
full-blown /S/ sound).
Mike Poxon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nik Taylor" <fortytwo@...>
To: <CONLANG@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: A project
> David Peterson wrote:
> > The language called Ewe has [f], [F], [v] and [B] all as separate,
> > disntinguishable phones, so it's possible. What I find less possible is
that
> > [tS] and [dZ] could exist without [S] and [Z].
>
> Old English has /dZ/ without /Z/, Spanish has /tS/ without /S/ (neither
> /dZ/ nor /Z/, except in some dialects as a variant of /j/) Japanese has
> /tS/, /S/, and /dZ/, but no /Z/, also has /dz/ (romanized as {z}) but no
> /z/. There's no reason that an affricate *has* to have a corresponding
> fricative.
>
> --
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