Re: lingual point of articulation, only lingual

Steven Williams wrote:

>--- Henrik Theiling <theiling@...> wrote:
>
> > Or maybe because it takes a long time to prepare the
> > tongue for that sound?  Let's call that phone [$].
> > Now pronounce [$u$a$sta], please.
>
>It's kinda hard to make a decent alveolar articulation
>for me if I roll my tongue. Rolled-up as it is, it's
>sort of hard to move around in the mouth, and all I
>can manage with the tip of the tongue, plosive-wise,
>are dental and labiolingual plosives. Alveolar
>plosives come out as something like weak fricatives,
>approximants or laterals...
>
hoo, the first time I read this I didn't know what you were talking about.
You're talking about making the phonemes at the same point of articulation
but instead of apical or laminal it would use the rounded tongue to
articulate?

That's a good idea! What I meant in my first post was not this but more of
sticking out your rolled tongue and using the hole as point of articulation
for fricatives or to stop it for plosives etc.

But this is also a good idea for sounds!

- Max