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Re: lingual point of articulation, only lingual

From:Carsten Becker <naranoieati@...>
Date:Tuesday, August 30, 2005, 11:17
On Tue, 30 August 2005, 04:36 MEST, Henrik Theiling wrote:

 > Hi!

Hey!

 > Adam Walker <carrajena@YAHOO.COM <mailto:carrajena@...>> writes:
 >> --- Henrik Theiling <theiling@ABSINT.COM
<mailto:theiling@...>> wrote:
 >>
 >> > Or maybe because it takes a long time to prepare the
 >> > tongue for that
 >> > sound?  Let's call that phone [$].  Now pronounce
 >> > [$u$a$sta], please.
 >> > :-)))
 >> >
 >> > **Henrik
 >> >
 >>
 >> I have to insert a schwa between the last /$/ and the
 >> /s/, otherwise it's trivial.
 >
 > !!??
 >
 > I cannot pronounce that easily although I can easily roll
 > my tongue.
 > And the time it takes to recover from a rolled tongue is
 > extraordinary.

[$s] is a bit difficult, and has the length of a geminated
sound. Since at least my [$] is much like a [T], but with a
bit of whistling, I think I'd easily simplify this to
[Tu"TAT:t_d_+a] in careless speech, a development to
[Tu"TAsta] is not unlikely. Max's actual idea to have
'lingual' as a pronunciation feature like 'palatalized' is
more interesting IMO. BTW, I don't see why it should not be
possible for an entire humanoid species to roll their
tongues in a certain period. Though of course, during the
course of time, this ability might fade. I'm a "victim" of
not having wisdom teeth either, and it does not affect me.
I'm curious whether my children will have them or not, since
both my parents and my siblings *have* wisdom teeth (my
parents had them pulled out of course). The funny thing is
that my brother lacks both eye teeth in the upper jaw and
has his two wisdom teeth 'instead'.

But don't let us talk about genetics now, please.

Cheers,
Carsten

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