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Re: Are conlangs fictional?

From:Jan van Steenbergen <ijzeren_jan@...>
Date:Friday, March 22, 2002, 13:06
 --- Christophe Grandsire wrote:
> En réponse à Jan van Steenbergen > <ijzeren_jan@...>:
> please explain me how to > talk about Sherlock Holmes without referring once to > stuff from one of the > books where he appears :) .
Easy. Always when I am trying to figure something out, or to reconstruct something, my brother calls me "Sherlock" :)))
> I agree, and that's why I'm a bit suspicious about > your definition. A good definition of the > word "fictional" should at least make it possible to
> get a definable grey zone between definable other > zones. IMO your definition doesn't offer that.
My definition is not really a definition. It is rather the sum of everything that remains when you leave the rest out. So: fiction is all but non-fiction. I think this problem applied to most definitions.
> > The same way we distinguish between "a book of > > fiction" and "a fictional book", we ought to > > distinguish between "a fictional language" and (a > > language of fiction?)
> That wouldn't be bad I think. At least, it > emphasizes the fact that the language, though used > for fiction purposes, exists as much as the book in > which the story is written (and which therefore onlu > serves for fiction purposes :)) ).
Sure. You can also use the French language for fiction purposes, after all ;) So we agree!
> Christophe.
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