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Re: OFFTOPIC: gernikako arbola

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Tuesday, September 14, 2004, 15:08
En réponse à Chris Bates :


>I was just reading about this... I've never heard of any government >apart from this one (the old Basque system) which actually held its >meetings under a tree...
As the story goes, Saint Louis rendered justice under a tree :) . I've always found the old Basque government system interesting (the "fueros", which is actually a Spanish word, probably from Latin FORUM). The interesting part being that the kings had to abide by the fueros :) . But what I've read is that the tree was the place where kings swore that they would not break the fueros, not the place where the assemblies met for decision-making.
> its a very romantic image, along the lines of >the tree of gondor in the Lord of the Rings, and it think its really sad >that the Nazis blew it up at the behest of General Franco. :( My opinion >of him has sunk even lower if that's possible... There's a word in >german that I can't quite remember (someone told it me once), but it >means... "the feel of a time/age/century/etc" and I think the feel of >this century and the one before is loss. :( The more we discover about >the world, the more we plot it and map it and explain it, the more I >just get this feeling of loss, like there's nothing left in the >spiritual realm any more, nothing left except what is and what we know >and its not fascinating anymore because we can explain it all. :( And >its even worse when peices of the past, pieces that feel worth saving, >have been destroyed for one reason or another (like the Tree of Guernica). >I'd emigrate if there was anywhere to go... but unfortunately we're all >stuck on planet Earth lol, and we've pretty much moulded everywhere in >the image of our industrial and scientific pursuits. I suppose I could >go live in the middle of the amazon or something, but I suppose I >wouldn't enjoy that either... being isolated from all the information >and analysis and knowledge that makes me despair sometimes, I think it >would be like a drug user without his or her fix. Maybe despair is the >feel of the last two centuries, or perhaps addiction to "progress". I >don't know. :)
There's a beautiful Dutch song that describes that exactly: "Vluchten kan niet meer": "Fleeing is no longer possible". http://www.xs4all.nl/~werksman/liedjes/laden.html?vluchten_kan_niet_meer.html Lyrics only in Dutch, but translation shouldn't be too difficult (even Babelfish shouldn't make too much of a mess out of it). Christophe Grandsire. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr You need a straight mind to invent a twisted conlang.

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