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Re: Obrenje and Schwiizertüütsch

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Monday, June 25, 2001, 15:39
En réponse à Christian Thalmann <cinga@...>:

> > I also considered using it for /T/ at one point. There are so woefully > few latin letters that can represent dental sounds, and so many velar > ones... anyway, I decided to dump /T/ altogether and install the /s/ in > its place. IMHO, /s/ is a more natural fricative version of /t/ than > /T/ is. >
It depends whether your /t/ is dental or alveolar. If /s/ is the normal fricative version of an alveolar /t/, /T/ is the normal fricative version of a dental /t/ (like 'th' in Tokana).
> > In Obrenje, the first verb would be in the IIIe person, while in the > second sentence, it would be IIIi. > > One might argue that this distinction is superfluous, but I think it > does serve its purpose, since Obrenje is VSO. Marking an implied > subject on the verb tells the listener right away that the subject is > the same as before, thus relieving him from the insecurity that there > may be a new subject following in the sentence. It takes some > responsibility from the syntax and makes retro-active parsing > unnecessary. >
A very good idea! But it seems to me that among the examples you gave there were some with implicit 3rd person and yet an explicitly given subject (or am I dreaming things?).
> > > At least my > > Narbonósc has an official orthography. But hey, it's an official > language after > > all :) . > > Where do I find info about Narbonósc? Your homepage lists five other > conlangs, but Narbonósc seems to be your main lang, considering how > often you mention it on this list. ;-) >
It's my main lang *now*, but wait until I began my Arabo-Romance project :)) . As for usability, my main lang is Moten, which is available on the web (with even a lexicon!). But it's true that Narbonósc is my last child, and currently my favorite one. You cannot find anything about it on Internet yet, but you can find a lot in the archives, since I bothered a lot the list with the orthographical, grammatical and lexical features of narbonósc :) (search with the names Narbonósc and Roumant, its former name). Search in the archives of the list itself, at:, they are more up-to-date and accessible than the Yahoo/e-groups archives. Christophe.