Re: Encourage new browser or use ASCII?

On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 00:25:41 -0400, Roger Mills <rfmilly@...> wrote:

>Ben Poplawski wrote:
>
>> On my site, http://benpop.cgweb.us/, the language menu
>> http://benpop.cgweb.us/lang/, I make extensive use of Unicode. Someone
>> requested an ASCII-friendly page, and I suggested he get a new browser.
>>
>> Is this asking too much, having persons get an up-to-date-browser? I tend
>> toward David Peterson's idea on it: use only Unicode, hoping the user gets
>> a
>> hint and upgrades so s/he can see it.
>
>Some of us (i.e. me) are less computer-savvy than others. Actually, I have
>two IPA/Unicode fonts installed, and I can read many websites that use IPA;
>I've even snuck a few IPA chars. into my own website. But I can't read yours
>and have no idea why.
I don't know either. I can't read it with IE6. I have utf-8 encoding and
everything, and the pages validate. It's a mystery.

Which browser do you use? I know for sure Firefox gets things right, and its
quite easy to install, actually.

>> And then again, using Unicode extensively is a real pain in the ***,
>> having
>> to write &amp;#x00E7; or whatever a lot.
>>
>> So, ideas? Should I accommodate non-Unicode browsers or go with my present
>> pure Unicode setup?
>>
>Since you're going to be discussing your languages via email on this list,
>you will perforce have to be ASCII-friendly, or you will have many
>complaints.  Learn X-SAMPA, or one of the variants(1) that have been
>proposed here-- yes it's ugly and awkward, but at least it's readable and
>everyone is familiar with it :-))))
>----------------------
>(1) For ex., CSX, which can be seen here:
>http://andjo.free.fr/conlang/img/cxschart.gif
I already know X-SAMPA. I also already know of CXS, but my resource was
here: http://www.theiling.de/ipa/cxs.html

My main issue with X-SAMPA is with the palatals. The cases don't match up,
which confuses me. "Voiced fricative... was is upper case or lower case? I
just know it doesn't match with the unvoiced one..."

Ben

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