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Re: Whatever happened to Aelya?

From:Christian Thalmann <cinga@...>
Date:Sunday, April 14, 2002, 23:51
--- In conlang@y..., Aidan Grey <grey@F...> wrote:

> >Sounds familiar. Obrenje has a transliteration scheme that uses only > >standard Latin characters. Its one-on-one correspondence to native > >script characters (Cirnaja) is useful, but produces atrocities like > >|nokkce| "it goes" or |kwaq| "duck", although they don't sound as > >vile as they look (/"nOk.ks=/, /kwaN/). > > Part of this is some strange conlanger need to have one-for-one > orthographies, which are exceedingly rare in natlangs. C doesn't represent > /S/ in any natlang i know of, for example, so it's use for such is strange. > Same for q and /N/.
Small misunderstanding here. Obrenje has a one-on-one correspondence between latin transcription letters and native script letters. That doesn't mean those letters have exactly one possible sound! Not at all: Obrenje |c| is /s/ before front vowel, otherwise /h/ inter- vocally, /x/ after back vowel and /C/ after front vowel. All that derives from a proto-Obrenje /x/.
> I would write your words above as nokkse, or even nokxe, and quang or > cuang.
Too bad the Obrenaj never knew Latin letters in the first place. =P See http://catharsis.netpeople.ch/fonts/cbo.gif for a draft of the script, and http://catharsis.netpeople.ch/langmaking/grammar.htm for an explanation of its use. |Nokkce|, by the way, is written with only four letters in Obrenje script. The third letter is a |kc| affricate letter with a gemination tilde below.
> No, I never got that far. I only ever had a mythological origin sketch > on the web. A search of the archives should reveal the zillions of phases > that Aelya went through before it gelled and then died. If you really want > some info (or even want to take it over) I can track down/recreate my > notes, eventually. I may have more than I thought on my computer - > including the original Sound change files...maybe. I'll look, if you'd like > them.
Thanx, no need to put some effort into that. You've already been a lot of help, and more would probably fall under plagiarism. ;-) Punce vuga! /"pMns= "vu:ga/ "Many thanks." -- Christian Thalmann

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