Re: Whatever happened to Aelya?
| From: | Christian Thalmann <cinga@...> | 
| Date: | Sunday, April 14, 2002, 23:51 | 
--- In conlang@y..., Aidan Grey <grey@F...> wrote:
> >Sounds familiar.  Obrenje has a transliteration scheme that uses only
> >standard Latin characters.  Its one-on-one correspondence to native
> >script characters (Cirnaja) is useful, but produces atrocities like
> >|nokkce| "it goes" or |kwaq| "duck", although they don't sound as
> >vile as they look (/"nOk.ks=/, /kwaN/).
>
>     Part of this is some strange conlanger need to have one-for-one
> orthographies, which are exceedingly rare in natlangs. C doesn't represent
> /S/ in any natlang i know of, for example, so it's use for such is strange.
> Same for q and /N/.
Small misunderstanding here.  Obrenje has a one-on-one correspondence
between latin transcription letters and native script letters.  That
doesn't mean those letters have exactly one possible sound!  Not at
all: Obrenje |c| is /s/ before front vowel, otherwise /h/ inter-
vocally, /x/ after back vowel and /C/ after front vowel.  All that
derives from a proto-Obrenje /x/.
>     I would write your words above as nokkse, or even nokxe, and quang or
> cuang.
Too bad the Obrenaj never knew Latin letters in the first place.  =P
See http://catharsis.netpeople.ch/fonts/cbo.gif for a draft of the
script, and http://catharsis.netpeople.ch/langmaking/grammar.htm for
an explanation of its use.
|Nokkce|, by the way, is written with only four letters in Obrenje
script.  The third letter is a |kc| affricate letter with a gemination
tilde below.
>     No, I never got that far. I only ever had a mythological origin sketch
> on the web. A search of the archives should reveal the zillions of phases
> that Aelya went through before it gelled and then died. If you really want
> some info (or even want to take it over) I can track down/recreate my
> notes, eventually. I may have more than I thought on my computer -
> including the original Sound change files...maybe. I'll look, if you'd like
> them.
Thanx, no need to put some effort into that.  You've already been a
lot of help, and more would probably fall under plagiarism.  ;-)
Punce vuga! /"pMns= "vu:ga/ "Many thanks."
-- Christian Thalmann
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