Re: Tj'a-ts'a~n stress pattern

At 2:37 pm +0100 8/2/99, Christophe Grandsire wrote:
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>is realized by doubling the length of this vowel, but the other syllabes of
>the roots are also a little stressed, and this stress is realized by
>lengthening the vowels just a little bit, and adding a little intensity.
.......

>        Now, here are my questions:
>- what do you think of this stress pattern?
>- do you know any conlang or natlang that uses also a stress of length (I'm
>not talking about languages that have phonemic long vowels and that stress
>words on those vowels, but about languages that _phonetically_ realize
>stress as lengthening vowels)?
Greek long ago gave up the phonemic long-short vowel distinction.  The
ancient pitch accent has given way to an accent which "is realized by
lengthening the vowels just a little bit, and adding a little intensity".
It's usually classified as 'stressed' as opposed to 'pitch', but there is
certainly lengthening also.  I reckon your desciption in your last sentence
above is a pretty good desciption of the modern Greek word accent.

I realize, however, this is not exactly the scheme you have in mind in the
first para quoted above, since the marked or accented syllable in Greek
normally applies to only one syllable in a word or, if an enclitic follows,
possibly to two syllables at most.

BTW, I shall also mark out the vowel of the root words in my still
anonymous 'briefscript' an marking which 'is realized by lengthening the
vowel just a little bit, and adding a little intensity and/or pitch'.  :)

Ray.