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Re: Really Intersistemal (was: INTERSYSTEMAL CONLANG)

From:Ted E. Saratoga <tedetedet@...>
Date:Tuesday, July 2, 2002, 17:00
 My comments marked below ... TED--- On Tue 07/02,
=?iso-8859-1?q?Jan=20van=20Steenbergen?= &lt; ijzeren_jan@YAHOO.CO.UK &gt;
wrote:

From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jan=20van=20Steenbergen?= [mailto: ijzeren_jan@YAHOO.CO.UK]To:
CONLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDUDate: Tue 07/02Subject: Re: Really Intersistemal
(was: INTERSYSTEMAL CONLANG)--- Joe wrote:&gt; I've always wondered why IALs
are mostly Romance clones.
TED: Romance roots are widespread.
&gt;Romance is&gt; annoying.I wouldn't put it that bluntly, but I understand your point.
To a certaindegree I even agree with you.
TED: Some features I find annoying (in things like Interlingua) included the
emphasis on gender, the reflexive, and the order of many pronouns.##All I can think
of:- in the Top 10 of World Languages, at least two are Romance (French
andSpanish);
TED: French is out numbered by Portuguese, by a lot.
two others (Portuguese and Italian) are spoken by a substantialamount of people as
well, or have played a very important role in history;- Latin can easily be
considered the cradle language of western civilization,and don't forget that
IALs are predominantly a matter of westerncivilization;- English is just to
weird to serve as the basis for an IAL. Besides, Englishis soaked with Romance
influences and loans anyway;
TED: Artlangs based on English are wierd too.. Clockwork Orange,
Newspeak, etc.
- not only English, but a great number of other languages (including Slavic)are
full of Latin/Romance loanwords;- the Romance languages have a comparitively
simple grammar.- they seem to please a lot of people aesthetically.Please note,
that not every Romance-based conlang is a Euroclone. There arevery good
examples very fine languages. And for what it is worth: yes,Euroclones are
undoubtedly boring.
TED: Boring is really BAD for an Artlang.
But bear in mind that they were conceivedfor a purpose completely different than
being exciting. I agree with Ray, thatMr. Mitrovitch should be given the
benefit of the doubt.
TED: I'm trying to find his stuff.
Now, I realize that IAL discussions are to be avoided, and I definitely don'twant
to be expelled to AUXLANG. All I can say, is that I hope this replyremained
within the boundaries of the acceptable...TED: There are Romance based Artlangs
as well.

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