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Re: Request for help, Spanish

From:R. Nierse <rnierse@...>
Date:Monday, October 11, 1999, 7:43
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> Van: Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...> > Aan: Multiple recipients of list CONLANG <CONLANG@...> > Onderwerp: Request for help, Spanish > Datum: zondag 10 oktober 1999 7:01 >=20 > I'm currently working on Lun=EA (<Lun=E9s < Luna + -=E9s), the official > language of the Pan-Human Republic. It is descended from a > Spanish-lexified creole, with substrate influence from English and > Esperanto (a language spoken in a number of Lunar colonies), and > probably other languages. Now, the questions I have are these: >=20
Nice setting
> What is the distribution of the allophones [a] and [A] in Spanish? And > do all dialects have those allophones? >=20
I didn't know there was allophony. But I'm no native speaker.
> What are the pronunciations of {ll} and {y} in different dialects?=20 > Particularly in Mexican dialects. >=20
As far as I know the Mexican way is the most straightforward one: {ll} being IPA lambda and {y} being {y}. In the Andes {ll} has become [Z] and the Indian languages have taking this over (_llacta_ 'village' is pronounced as [Zacta] in Ecuador). Pablo can confirm this for Plate=F1o too I think. I read a complaint in a newspaper (El Pais?) of a native speaker of Northern Spain that he didn't like that in his region {ll} and {y} are bo= th propounced the same way as [y]. So there is no difference between _pollo_ and _poyo_ anymore.
> One sound change involves the loss of intervocalic voiced stops. Now, > in words like "ciudad", this would produce [sju'a] (I think, or is it > [sju'A]?). What should I do with those kinds of words? Ordinarily, > unstressed high vowels become glides when prevocalic, but *[sjwa] would > be impossible. Would it be reasonable for that to become a rounded > glide, that is [s;ha]? Or would it be reasonable for an epenthetic [w] > to be added, creating [sju'wa]? Or should I just leave it at [sju'a]?=20 > Or, might the [j] be vocalized, creating [si'wa]? >=20
I think I would become [siu'a] -> [si'wa] or something like that. As I he= ar it (from natives of Spain) the /i/ is more pronounced than the /u/. Rob