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Re: Request for help, Spanish

From:Carlos Thompson <carlos_thompson@...>
Date:Monday, October 11, 1999, 15:31
I just wanted to listen to other answers first.

Nik Taylor escribi=F3:


> I'm currently working on Lun=EA (<Lun=E9s < Luna + -=E9s), the official > language of the Pan-Human Republic. It is descended from a > Spanish-lexified creole, with substrate influence from English and > Esperanto (a language spoken in a number of Lunar colonies), and > probably other languages. Now, the questions I have are these: > > What is the distribution of the allophones [a] and [A] in Spanish? And > do all dialects have those allophones?
As I've read (but I'm unable to hear or even know if I pronounce it that way) is that [A] is realized in open syllabes, while [a] is realized in closed syllabes (syllabes ending in consontant).
> What are the pronunciations of {ll} and {y} in different dialects? > Particularly in Mexican dialects.
In my dialect both are pronounced [j\], a fricative version of [j]. I kn= ow is not a [j] (because _hierba_ is contrasted whit _yerba_), nor a [Z] (beacuse Paisa _Medell=EDn_ [Z] is contrasted with Rolo _Medell=EDn_ [j\]= ), and I'm almost certain I dont affricate, at least not in intervocalic positio= ns. I guess Mexicans have the same pronunciation, but after neither Esperanto nor English have a voiced palatal fricative, I guess the sound can orbit towards [j] (intervocalic) and [dZ] (begining of word).
> One sound change involves the loss of intervocalic voiced stops. Now, > in words like "ciudad", this would produce [sju'a] (I think, or is it > [sju'A]?). What should I do with those kinds of words? Ordinarily, > unstressed high vowels become glides when prevocalic, but *[sjwa] would > be impossible. Would it be reasonable for that to become a rounded > glide, that is [s;ha]? Or would it be reasonable for an epenthetic [w] > to be added, creating [sju'wa]? Or should I just leave it at [sju'a]? > Or, might the [j] be vocalized, creating [si'wa]?
Proposed change: [sju'DaD] -> [sju'D_aa] -> [sju'a] -> [Su'a] -> [Swa] (where [D_a] is an alveolar [D] or a non-sylibiant [z], already present i= n my dialect). -- Carlos Th