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Re: Latin-1 English Pronunciation Key

From:Danny Wier <dawier@...>
Date:Sunday, September 10, 2000, 12:34
--- BP Jonsson <bpj@...> wrote:
> I spotted the Merriem-Webster Online Pronunciation Key and felt > prompted > (revolted actually :-)> to propose an improved version! > :
Thank you so much! I felt pretty indignant myself about the M-W list, and your version is a definite improvement. You may or may not have heard about a phonetic script developed by an economist from Chicago named John Malone in 1959: http://www.unifon.org/ Unlike the seemingly _a priori_ symbols used in the Deseret script, this alphabet uses capital letters with various modifications.
> /ä/ as {a} and {u} in _abut_ > /ï/ as {e} in _kitten_ > /ër/ as ur/er in _further_
Thank you for dividing the different "schwas", especially the a-schwa and i-schwa, which to me seems distinctive even though it's hard to tell from speech considering their weak pronunciation. The "low schwa" is much more like IPA inverted v (mid-open back unrounded) while the "high schwa" can range from IPA inverted e to IPA barred i! The third is not a schwa in the sense of being exclusively unstressed, but it is indeed a central-range vowel with retroflexion.
> /æ/ as {a} in _ash_ > /á/ as {a} in _ace_
You have an acute here but a circumflex elsewhere; is there a reason?
> /å/ as {o} in _mop_
A-ring, good choice.
> /áù/ as {ou} in _out_
An au ligature with a wide circumflex above?
> /c/ as {ch} in _chin_ > /e/ as {e} in _bet_ > /ê/ as {ea} in _easy_ > /g/ as {g} in _go_ > /i/ as {i} in _hit_ > /î/ as {i} in _ice_ > /j/ as {j} in _job_
I'd use /3/ here (for ezh), and /j/ for y in yes.
> /ñ/ as {ng} in _sing_ > /ô/ as {o} in _go_ > /o/ as {aw} in _law_ > /ø/ as {oy} in _boy_
This one I have to take issue with. Why not /oi/ with a ligaturing circumflex above like you have for /au/? Also, you have to allow for foreign words, especially French, with mid front rounded vowels. Same thing for /y/. (You can also find local forms of English with the front rounded vowels; I've heard them here in Texas, since we're infamous for lazy pronunciations.)
> /¢/ as {th} in _thin_ > /¤/ as {th} in _the_ > /û/ as {oo} in _loot_ > /u/ as {oo} in _foot_ > /y/ as {y} in _yet_
Again, I'd prefer /j/ for the reasons I discussed above; I'd allow for the high front rounded vowel in certain registers.
> /ç/ as {sh} in _ship_ > /ß/ as {si} in _vision_ > > The reason I didn't use þ and ð (thorn and eth) for the "th" sounds > is that > these are not generally available on Macintoshes. Netscape will > replace > them with question marks...
A quirk about Macs that bothers me, since I happen to like these two letters very much; I still use these two at least in defiance! (Not that I'm any particular fan of Windows/Microsoft, but that's a whole other topic and I do NOT want to start a debate about "my OS is better than yours" and such.) Still, I like your proposal. I'd also check out Unifon, and there's a reformed Unifon with some friendlier characters. DaW. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/