Re: Hiksilipsi complex segments (was: RE: [CONLANG] me again
|From:||JS Bangs <jaspax@...>|
|Date:||Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 22:59|
And Rosta sikyal:
> > And this is the situation in Hiksilipsi. The only consonant clusters
> > (other than those involving the glides [j] and [w], which are
> > exceptional), are [ps ks mp Nk], which can occur initially and medially.
> > The most natural analysis, IMHO, is to say that these represent onset
> > clusters in each case and, given the peculiar distribution of these
> > sounds, to say that they're unit phonemes.
> I buy your phonological analysis of Hiksilipsi. It was that first
> argument that I didn't get (and still don't, but never mind).
Eh, well, 'twasn't important. I felt that it was a weak argument when I
wrote it, and you and John have only further convinced me of that.
> > BTW, I decided today to write Hiksilipsi with a syllabary :-), and drew up
> > some preliminary glyphs.
> Can you clarify for me the relation between Hiks and Yivrindil? Are these
> two completely unrelated conlangs?
No, they're related. They're members of the same language family, but in
widely-separated branches. (Widely separated linguistically. Through an
accident of geographical history, the Hiksilipsi language area is "at
present" located inside the Yivríndil area.) Some cognates:
Y /vana/ ~ H /psaNku/ "water"
Y /sIm/ ~ H /himpi/ "two"
Y /pEl/ "tongue" ~ H /fyeli/ "speech"
Y /keha/ ~ H /?jeNu/ "hand"
(the H forms given are those before I tonified the language, but I haven't
worked out the new sound rules, so this will do)
Jesse S. Bangs firstname.lastname@example.org
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