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Re: Hiksilipsi complex segments (was: RE: [CONLANG] me again

From:JS Bangs <jaspax@...>
Date:Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 22:59
And Rosta sikyal:

> > And this is the situation in Hiksilipsi. The only consonant clusters > > (other than those involving the glides [j] and [w], which are > > exceptional), are [ps ks mp Nk], which can occur initially and medially. > > The most natural analysis, IMHO, is to say that these represent onset > > clusters in each case and, given the peculiar distribution of these > > sounds, to say that they're unit phonemes. > > I buy your phonological analysis of Hiksilipsi. It was that first > argument that I didn't get (and still don't, but never mind).
Eh, well, 'twasn't important. I felt that it was a weak argument when I wrote it, and you and John have only further convinced me of that.
> > BTW, I decided today to write Hiksilipsi with a syllabary :-), and drew up > > some preliminary glyphs. > > Can you clarify for me the relation between Hiks and Yivrindil? Are these > two completely unrelated conlangs?
No, they're related. They're members of the same language family, but in widely-separated branches. (Widely separated linguistically. Through an accident of geographical history, the Hiksilipsi language area is "at present" located inside the Yivríndil area.) Some cognates: Y /vana/ ~ H /psaNku/ "water" Y /sIm/ ~ H /himpi/ "two" Y /pEl/ "tongue" ~ H /fyeli/ "speech" Y /keha/ ~ H /?jeNu/ "hand" (the H forms given are those before I tonified the language, but I haven't worked out the new sound rules, so this will do) Jesse S. Bangs jaspax@u.washington.edu "If you look at a thing nine hundred and ninety-nine times, you are perfectly safe; if you look at it the thousandth time, you are in frightful danger of seeing it for the first time." --G.K. Chesterton