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Re: aspirated m?

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Wednesday, November 24, 2004, 6:32
Quoting Kris Kowal <cowbertvonmoo@...>:

> --- Steven Williams: > > --- Ray Brown eskribiw: > > --- Isaac Penzev skrev: > > > AFAIK, voiceless nasals are separate phonemes in > > > Burmese (Myanmar). > > And several Native American languages, not to mention > > at least one of Tolkien's conlangs (if that counts). > > Huh? Either you know something about Telerin or Ilkorin that I don't, > but I don't believe that any of Tolkien's conlangs have voicles > nasals. I only really know for sure in Quenya and Sindarin. However, > there are tenwa that could concievably be used for the purpose. If > you follow the 'idea' behind the tengwar and where the number of bows > represents whether the phoneme is voiced, row 6 (ore, vala, anna, and > wilya, i think) could concievely be voiceless nh, mh, ngh, and ngwh.
FWIW, in the Etymologies, there is one revision layer that changes Noldorin m->sm- to hm-, apparently denoting a voiceless m. This was later undone - in the Sindarin of LotR, we wind for example _mallorn_, despite that the first element seems to derive from SMAL. Andreas

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