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Re: Consonant allophones in Minza

From:Herman Miller <hmiller@...>
Date:Sunday, September 30, 2007, 2:12
Philip Newton wrote:
> On 9/29/07, Herman Miller <hmiller@...> wrote: >> Actually, the Greek gamma doesn't look too out of place in the middle of >> words in the Latin alphabet: arγa, fulγa, γäiγa, γälika, γemet, γüluŋ, >> łuγu, möγïlör, muγä, nelγä, paγë, rëγa, tšaγïl, xraγu. I don't know if >> I'd want to go so far as to mix Cyrillic characters in with the gamma, >> so "nelγä" ends up as "nelγя" and "tšaγïl" as "tшaγыl" (or "чaγыl"); >> that doesn't quite look the way I'd like for it to look. > > *shrug* it worked for me; my default script for GSF is a mix of Latin, > Greek, and Cyrillic (mostly the latter, though). > > LGC have the well-known advantages that they're all well-supported by > many fonts, and that within the same font the letters will tend to > match one another stylistically.
Well, one thing I might consider is Cyrillic л for the [l`] ~ [J] phoneme. In general I've been using the wedge-caron thing for the retroflex/postalveolar/palatal sounds: š, ž, ň, but there isn't an L-with-caron character. So I was using ř for a while, but now I've got ľ. I haven't been really satisfied with either of these options. And э might be a good option for the low-mid central vowel... But at least now I think I've got a good idea of the phoneme inventory of Minza, and I can play around with different writing systems. Bilabial and labiodental: /p/ /b/ /m/ /f/ /v/ Dental and alveolar: /t/ /d/ /n/ /r/ /s/ /z/ /K/ /l/ Retroflex / postalveolar: /ň/* /š/ /ž/ /ľ/ Velar / palatal: /k/ /g/ /N/* /x/ /G/ * /ň/ and /N/ contrast only around central or back vowels; the distinction is neutralized in syllables with front vowels. (There are some details not yet decided; it's possible that /K/ has a retroflex allophone, etc.) Front vowels: /i/ /E/ /&/ Central vowels: /1/ /3/ /A/ Back vowels: /u/ /o/ Vowel length and stress: still undecided. I might just want to make stress and/or length phonemic so I don't have to figure out a set of rules that gives the results I want in every case. Basically, I'd like to get this nailed down so I don't have to change it again; one of the things that's held Minza back is the time-consuming process of reviewing the whole vocabulary each time the phonology changes, and I think I'm getting close to something I could live with without needing to change it much further.

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Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>