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Re: CHAT: Opperlands

From:James Campbell <james@...>
Date:Thursday, May 13, 1999, 7:56
Lars and Irina wrote:

> Almost. ten =3D to the > > Incorporating an article in a derived word is not that common (in the > languages I've seen). Perhaps a conlang idea ... > > toon =3D show > > My little Danish etymological dictionary says "Du. toonen, akin to > Gothic at-augjan". But how did it get an <n> in the stem?
My Spectrum Dutch Etym Dict directs as follows: (sorry, this is gonna be in Dutch, I'm too work-fried to translate right now) --- toon (2) in /tentoonstellen/, zie /tonen/ tonen ... vgl. mnd. /t=F4nen/, mhd. /zounen/, /z=F4nen/, me. /taunen/...;= staat naast mnl. /t=F4ghen/, os. /t=F4gian/, ohg /zougen/, waarvan de herkomst duidelijk wordt door got. /ataugjan/. Het grondwoord is dus een afl. van /oog/ en komt ook zelfstandig voor: mnl. /=F4ghen/... got. /augjan/. De s= s. /at-augjan/ betekent dus 'iets voor ogen brengen'. De vorm van /tonen/ he= eft men willen verklaren uit een grondvorm /*at-awnan/, dus met een vocalisat= ie van /g/ tussen /u/ en /n/, wat hypothetisch blijft. Maar de opvatting dat /tonen/ een jonge wgerm. bijvorm van /togen/ zou zijn, is ook onzeker. ----- [Key: mnd: Middle Low German, mhd: Middle High German, me. Middle English= , mnl. Middle Dutch, os. Old Saxon, ohg. Old High German, got. Gothic. ss=3Dsamenstelling (compound)] It appears that the root meaning is 'to bring something before the eyes'. The change from /g/ to /n/ is, however, "hypothetisch", and it is uncerta= in whether the /n/ form really *is* younger than the /g/ form. At least, tha= t's how I read it. Apologies for any possible misinterpretation. James =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D James Campbell james@zeugma.force9.co.uk http://www.zeugma.force9.co.u= k "Love's the only country I know" - The Blue Nile =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D