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Dialect & accent (was: Announcement: New auxlang "Choton")

From:Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Sunday, October 10, 2004, 11:34
On Saturday, October 9, 2004, at 04:30 , taliesin the storyteller wrote:
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> Though, maybe English is the only language which has internal > accents, the rest of the world calls the same thing dialects?
Nope - there is a difference between dialect and accent. Dialect forms of English differ from the written standard in matters of _grammar_ & _lexicon_ as well as pronunciation. In some cases the differences were considerable. Since the end of the 19th century, universal education has greatly reduced dialect differences, what mostly remains is the application of derivatives old dialect pronunciations applied to (more or less) standard English. The latter is what we term regional accents. A few older dialect relicts remain, e.g. in my native Sussex, the simple present tense affixes -(e)s for _all_ persons, not just the 3rd singular. This is found also in some other southern dialects. This feature, however, is confined to what is regarded as the 'lower status' speakers. Other Sussexisms like the use of "somewhen" and "anywhen" can be found in the speech of speakers of all social statuses. Although we were told at school that these words were not standard English, on the whole we ignored our teachers as practically everyone used them. It wasn't until I got to university that I discovered the teachers were right :) But full dialect speech disappeared from most areas in the early 20th century, tho in some like the Jordie of the NE England and some of the lowland Scots dialects have proved more resistant. Ray =============================================== http://home.freeuk.com/ray.brown ray.brown@freeuk.com =============================================== Anything is possible in the fabulous Celtic twilight, which is not so much a twilight of the gods as of the reason." [JRRT, "English and Welsh" ]