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Re: More thoughts on BrSc orthography & phonology

From:Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Sunday, April 21, 2002, 18:24
At 7:15 pm +0100 20/4/02, And Rosta wrote:
>Ray:
[snip]
>> Yes, but the two goals of (i) brevity (using the Roman script) and (ii) >> IAL-hood were those of Reginald Dutton when he designed and developed >> Speedwords. It was as a result of dissatisfaction with his solution that >> work on BrSc began. There clearly has to be compromise and trade off >> between the two goals - that's the challenge. > >Key things to maximize brevity: > >(1) Maximize the combinatorial symbols. > -- but here for IAL reasons you're choosing c. 26 letters >(2) Minimize combinatorial restrictions on basic symbols. >(3) Maximize homonymy. >(4) Make relative length reflect relative frequency.
(4) is something that Dutton consciously attempted to do. He used frequency list drawn up by Professor Ernest Horn of Iowa University. [snip]
> >The crucial issue is whether the element that distinguishes the polysemes/ >homonyms from one another must be marked. The Lin A/N/V distinction is >not marked; it is recovered from grammatical context.
It's partly marked by cements also. If two words are bound by an internal cement, the first must be a qualifier (adjective/adverb) and the second must be a noun or verb. If they are bound by an external cement we have either N+V or V+N according to position. But the difference between a word with same spelling but different meaning according to whether it's used as a noun or verb seems to me analogous to the English {sow} a) noun /s{w/ = 'female pig' b) verb /s@w/ = 'to scatter seed', 'to plant by scattering seeds' We'd normally consider these as two separate words, surely?
>The 1/2/3 distinction >is marked, by cements, tho I have a vague memory of Skrintha writing >about toggles that would set everything to 1 until toggled to 2 or 3, >and so on.
The toggles are explained in one of the set of notes I mailed. The toggles produce words which are pronounced differently.
>In partial contrast the BrSc distinguishers +front and +back >would always be marked.
True. Ray. ====================== XRICTOC ANECTH ======================

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