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Re: YAEPT: Voiceless TH in whether, worthy

From:Jonathan Knibb <jonathan_knibb@...>
Date:Monday, November 13, 2006, 14:03
Apropos of 'plaza', Mark J. Reed wrote:
> I meant that it was weird that they [the English] pronounce it > Spanishly. The particular subset of Spanishliness is only relevant > inasmuch as pronouncing it a-la American Spanish would probably > sound pretty much the same as the English rendering, modulo the > voicing of the /z/.
Oh, I see what you mean. Well, the most common pronunciation is probably /plA:z@/, using English phonemes, but I suspect most people feel it to be a foreign word and vacillate accordingly, depending on their knowledge of Spanish and their expectations of their audience's knowledge. I've certainly heard both /T/ and /s/ in the 'z' place, but very infrequently if ever with two Spanishesque /a/ vowels - it'd sound a bit pretentious. 'Ibiza' OTOH varies only in the first vowel - /aI/ or /I/ - and otherwise only with the speaker's accent. Many of Thomas Weir's teeming hordes would have something like [OIbi:f@] :) Jonathan.

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