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From:Philippe Caquant <herodote92@...>
Date:Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 9:22
I had a look and thought nearly the same. This is very
much like Esperanto. What seems interesting is that
the special letters used in Esperanto are not in use
here. But this is also the case in Ido. So the
question is: why reinvent the wheel, instead of using
and improving what already exists ? Except for fun, of
course, which would be quite an understandable
motivation.

I know that the subject is very sensible and always on
the edge of "go and talk about that in the corridor,
we don't want to hear about it here", but my question
could be legitime after all: there must have been
reasons why the group didn't consider Ido, for
example. What are they ? I'm not talking about
political or other subjective reasons, but about
technical ones. What features in Aolia could be
considered as better adapted to the goal as in
Esperanto or Ido ? This might not exceed the field of
the present list (if it does, I'll shut up, of
course).

--- And Rosta <a.rosta@...> wrote:
> I went & had a look at Aiola. > > Nonrhetorically, I want to ask why people create > IALs -- the > question poses itself particularly acutely wrt Aiola > when I > see the effort & resources that appear to have gone > into it > (judging from what the website says). Presumably > IALs are > created mainly for fun, but I don't understand how > come > it is fun to create something very similar to > innumerable > existing members of the same category. Popular art > (pulp > fiction, popular music, B movies) is full of such > re-creations, > so clearly the creators do enjoy re-creation, but I > don't > understand why. Nor do I understand why IALs are > published > with the usual IAL message: "this IAL is the > solution to > the usual problems IALs are touted as solutions to, > and it > is better than other IALs". (Of Aiola: "Individual > features > such as phonetic spelling, marking of parts of > speech by word > endings, and word building using prefixes and > suffixes are > shared with other natural and constructed languages. > What > makes Aiola unique is that it has improved and > refined these > features to achieve an unprecedented combination of > logical > consistency, low ambiguity, and familiarity.") Is > this a kind > of 'Denial' (in psychobabble sense)? -- a kind of > elective > blindness to Reason, akin in nature to religious > Faith? > > The last thing I would want to do is decry the > pleasure > someone derives from creating an IAL, or from > publishing > it in the usual IAL way, but I find myself not only > perplexed but also distressed/grieved/sorrowed that > so much > labour should have been expended to so little avail. > Imagine, > as analogy, if a film director spent a decade > working on their > magnum opus, and upon completion it turned out to be > pretty > similar to Police Academy 38. There's a certain > poignancy > to that scenario. > > --And. >
===== Philippe Caquant "High thoughts must have high language." (Aristophanes, Frogs) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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