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Re: Some Boreanesian Phonological History

From:Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg.rhiemeier@...>
Date:Wednesday, November 7, 2001, 23:29
Kristian Jensen <kljensen@...> writes:

> Jörg Rhiemeier wrote: > > > [formula vs. naturalistic approach to protolanguages] > > I went for the formula approach. > > > [internal reconstruction] > > That's the basically the way I pictured how linguists reconstructed > Proto-B. The formula-like regularity of the reconstructed inventory > is a direct result of the complete lack of material.
Assuming that an irregular pattern evolved from a regular one through a series of sound changes that messed up the original paradigm is in corcordance with Occam's Razor; assuming the inverse development without solid evidence for a previous irregular system is not. Hence, a methodologically sound internal reconstruction will, in most cases at least, yield a system more regular than the earliest attested one.
> > > [nasal harmony in B] > > > > I.e. /bu/ -> [bu] but /bu~/ -> [mu] (or something like that), as I > > already guessed above. Do voiceless stops yield voiceless nasals? > > And what about continuants? > > All voiceless sounds are transparent to nasality. That is, they don't > host nasality by turning into nasals themselves, but they don't block > the spread of nasality either. So voiceless stops and fricatives remain > stops and fricatives, even when the surrounding sounds are nasals. > > Approximants, being voiced, are hosts to nasality -- i.e., they become > nasalized.
I.e. /B l y Y R/ > /m n n' N N'/ (n'=palatal, N'=uvular nasal), the same way as /b d j g G/ > /m n n' N N'/, or is there a difference?
> > [outline of a vowel harmony system] > > You may be interested to know that there are actually languages > with vowel height harmony. I seem to recall them being in Africa and > Central America. The harmonic rules are something to the effect of > having only high and low vowels in one set, and only mid vowels in > another set.
Tungusic and Chukotko-Kamchatkan languages have a high-low harmony with a high set /i e u/ and a low set /e a o/, if I am not mistaken. Note that /e/ is in both sets without being neutral (high /e/ corresponds to low /a/, while low /e/ corresponds to high /i/); probably, the high set was /i @ u/ or something like that before /@/ merged with /e/. But back to Boreanesian now.
> -----<snip>----- > > > Okey dokey! Here are some made-up examples just to keep things simple. > > > > > > /su + diw/ > sudiw > > > /su + kay/ > sukway > > > > I.e., /u/ labializes following velar. > > Yes! > > > > /pkway/ > pukway > > > > /p/ is labial, hence the epenthetic vowel is [u]. > > Nope. First, since /k/ is peripheral, it can host the rounding of /w/. > In effect, /kw/ is a permissable consonant cluster. Second, since /k/ > is peripheral and does not block the spread of rounding, the epenthetic > vowel between /p/ and /k/ is [u]. > > Actually, upon reflection, you could be right! If the underlying > structure is /pwkay/. It would surface the same way [pukway], since > /pw/ is a legal cluster (viz. /p/ is peripheral and compatible with > rounding). So you could argue, /pw/ is labial_ized_, hence the > epenthetic vowel is [u]. /w/ would then assimilate with this epenthetic > [u]. And with /k/ another peripheral consonant, the rounding proceeds > rightward. Like I mentioned before, it is extremely difficult to tell > whether the rounding comes from consonants or from vowels. For all > practical purposes, the underlying form could also just as well be > /pukay/.
Either way or the other, the epenthetic vowel is [u].
> A better representation of [pukway] is through the autosegmental approach: > > R LF > /\|| > pkay > > (where R is the autosegment for rounding, L for low, and F for fronting. > > Here I don't have to worry about whether rounding comes from a vowel, as > in /pukay/, or from a consonant, as in /pwkay/ or /pkway/. All three > possibilities would surface as [pukway], making it impossible to state > where rounding is coming from. > > I'll show what's going on autosegmentally in the next examples.
Yes, that will help.
> > > > > /si + pkway/ > sipukway > > > /T@ + pkway/ > T@pukway > > > > What is /T/? A voiceless dental fricative, or something else? > > A laminal stop (or fricative)? > > Sorry. Laminal denti-alveolar stop. It's just me being uncreative in > the transcription.
I guessed that.
> Autosegmentally this is: > > F R LF F R LF > | /\|| | /|\|| > s + pkay > sipukway > > H R LF H R LF > | /\|| | /|\|| > T + pkay > T@pukway
One moment. /s/ and /T/ are both laminal, aren't they? So why do they yield different epenthetic vowels? Is there still another rule I have missed? Or are the left sides mis-typed and the examples ought to look like below? F R LF F R LF | /\|| | /|\|| si + pkay > sipukway H R LF H R LF | /\|| | /|\|| T@ + pkay > T@pukway If it was like this, things would look much clearer.
> > > /d + pkway/ > dupukway > > > > /d/ is apical and thus neutral, hence the epenthetic vowel > > duplicates the vowel of the following syllable. > > Something like that. More precisely, the rounding of /w/ spreads > across two peripheral consonants: /p/ and /k/. > > Autosegmentally this is: > > R LF R LF > /\|| ///\\|| > d + pkay > dupukway
As clear as it could be.
> > > /d + Tway/ > d@Tuway > > > /d + pkway + Tway/ > dupukwa:cuway > > > /bkwi + T + pkway/ > bukwicupukway > > > > I can't see what is going on here, mainly because I don't know what > > /T/ is. > > Yeah... sorry'bout that. > > Anyways, in the first one, /T/ is laminal and thus is incompatible > with rounding. *[Tw] is therefore an illegal cluster and an epenthetic > [u] is inserted. /T/, being laminal, also blocks the spread of rounding. > Rounding cannot therefore spread backwards in the first one. The > epenthetic vowel is by default [@]. > > The second one shows that rounding spreads to the same prefixed light > syllable because the intervening consonants are peripheral. It also shows > /T/ palatalizes to [c] since laminal consonants are hosts to the fronting > of /y/ (I should have written /j/). Loss of /y/ lengthens /a/. > > The third one should be clear by now. I hope. > > Autosegmentally this is: > > RLF R LF > ||| /\|| > d + Tway > d@Tuway
Perfectly clear. /T/ blocks the spread of roundness, thus the epenthetic vowel is [@].
> R LF RLF R L FR LF > /\|| ||| ///\\/\|/\|| > d + pkay + Tway > dupukwa:cuway
As you said, /T/ palatalizes due to preceding /y/, the resulting cluster [yc] is simplified to [c] and the preceding vowel is compensatorily lengthened. Clear.
> R F R LF R F R LF > /\| /\|| /|\/\///\\|| > bki + T + pkay > bukwicupukway
Yes, /i/ palatalizes /T/ again.
> > > Hope that helps. > > > > A bit at least. A lot of things have become clearer to me. > > I'm glad that someone shows great interest.
It has almost developed into a private thread between us two (everybody who reads this is invited to join); well, it is pretty advanced theory-heavy matter that probably baffles quite a number of list members. But it is highly interesting stuff which inspires me to experiment with phonology as well. Jörg.

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