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Re: Is this a realistic phonology?

From:Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
Date:Sunday, March 7, 1999, 20:22
Tom Wier wrote:
> I'm not sure about that -- I mean, if you take the simple case > of the history of English, we used to have only two phonemic > nasals, /m/ and /n/, where [N] was merely an allophone of > /n/ before velar stops. Some sounds just tend not to be > phonemic in lots of languages (like [N]). The point being, > of course, that just because there's a tendency for features to > spread to all places of articulation, that doesn't mean they > have to.
Hmm, good point. I concede the point.
> But doesn't he say about that /r/ = [R]? Well, I favor the theory that > postvocalic /r/ in rhotic dialects of English, at least, is really not a consonant > at all, but really just the remnants of some former truly consonantal /r/ that has > left its mark on preceding vowels.
Something like that, I agree with. It's really a syllabic sound, like <le> in words like "little", or, in some people's pronunciation, /n/ in words like "carton".