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Re: Numbers and math

From:Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
Date:Friday, September 22, 2000, 2:35
I liked Marcus' answers.  :-)

taliesin the storyteller wrote:
> > A classic question is: how do you count to ten in your conlang?
Watakassí is actually base-12 1: Tá 2: Kabí 3: Slí 4: Vandú 5: Dakí 6: Mandú 7: Manduutá 8: Katí 9: Saslí A: Káz B: Yanú 10: Nadú 11: Naduutá 12: Kazzabá 14: Naduutí 15: Naduzsí 16: Nattá 17: Naduzbá 20: Kannadú 30: Diidíi 40: Tindú 60: Diindú 70: Zabandú 80: Dabindú 100: Sakyáa Nothing above 100 (144) Numbers not listed are formed regularly, with 12 becoming -ndú in compounds, and stress always being on the last element, thus "50" (decimal 60) would be dakindú. Smaller numbers are suffixed on, thus 13 = naduslí, 53 = dakinduslí. Note that the element -ndú is in 4 and 6. The first half of each of those are obsolete prefixes meaning "one third" and "half", 7 is transparently 6+1, with the lengthening being due to the original form of one, qëtá. By itself, the që was lost, but with a vowel before it, it resulted in lengthening, via: manëdoqëtá -> mandoqtá -> mandu[X]tá -> manduutá, hence also the form in 11. The zaba- in zabandú is from an archaic word for 7, as is the -zabá in the word for 12, from the old prefix kar- (two), karzëbá -> kazzabá, the word for 30 (36) is formed from an archaic word for six, reduplicated (six sixes), namely dékë (which also shows up in diindú), dekëdékë -> dexdéx -> dixdíx -> diidíi and there are several other examples of archaic numbers preserved in certain forms. Sakyáa does not take suffixes, thus 137 (187) would be sakyáa diidiimanduutá, but does take prefixes, thus 237 would be kabisakyáa diidiimanduutá. If one needed to make very large numbers, like 1,00,00,00 (12^6, 2,985,984), you'd have to say sakyáa sakyáa sakyáa (a hundred hundred hundred)
> - do you form ordinals from cardinals? how? if not, how?
Yes. Numbers do not take case suffixes or gender prefixes when they are cardinals, thus "of three women" would be tiwwitáif slí, but when they are ordinals, they take both, thus "of the third woman" would be tipitáf tislíf
> - do you have a zero?
Nope.
> - can numbers be negative?
Nope. If there's no zero, how can there be less than zero?
> - fractions? percentiles? if it's not a decimal system, is there > something instead of percentiles?
Probably some way of doing fractions, but no equivalent of percentages.
> - how do you add, subtract, multiply and divide? (if you know how)
Hmmm, probably something like: Klánva Kabí ku slí dakí Are Two and three five 2+3=5 Klálva Kabí slí-du tá Is Two three-ell one 3-2=1 (literally, "Two from three is one" Multiply? Maybe something like: Klánva kabí slí mandú Is two three six Two three is 6. Maybe, possibly? Divide? Wouldn't have a clue.
> - what about raising to the nth power and n-roots?
Powers? Roots? What're those? :-) -- Dievas dave dantis; Dievas duos duonos God gave teeth; God will give bread - Lithuanian proverb ICQ: 18656696 AIM Screen-Name: NikTailor