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Re: Who was talking about Khazaria?

From:Pavel Iosad <pavel_iosad@...>
Date:Friday, October 25, 2002, 17:26
Hello,

[Christophe:]

> Was there? I don't remember it :((( . Too bad, it's one > language I'd like to > know more about...
Indeed there was. http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0206C&L=conlang&P=R1 0256
> > And the Lord's Prayer: > > > > Atamis kim köktä sen > > Algiszle bulsun sening ating > > kelsin sening hanlechin > > bulsun sening tilemegin neçikkim köktä allay ierdä > > kundegi ötmackimismi bisge bugun bergil > > dage iazuclarimisni bizgä bozzatkil > > neçik bis bozzattirbis bizgä iaman etchenlergä > > dage iecnik sinamakina bisni kuurmagil > > bassa barça iamandan bisni kuthargil. > > Amen.
In one word, bullshit :-) Or a conlang. That'd be better ;-) [Peter:]
> I'd say that the theory presented here is about half-right.
Traditionally,
> it was assumed that after the Byzantines and Slavs finished mopping up
the
> Khazarian Empire, all the Khazars just crawled into a corner and died.
However,
> there is a significant amount of evidence that even before the end of
their
> empire, some Khazarians were migrating--there is some suggestions that
a family
> or clan of Khazars joined with the Magyar tribes on their way west to
what is
> today modern Hungary.
Yes, there was finding of an inscription somehere in northern Serbia (the name escapes just at the moment) the content of which coincides with a name given in King Joseph's letter.
> Koestler's theory is that they basically went west after > the fall of the empire, becoming the ancestors of most European Jews.
A more
> recent book, "The Jews of Khazaria," posits a theory between the two
extremes;
> namely, that the Khazarian Jews went west and bumped into the French
and German
> Jews heading east, intermingled, and out of the mix came Ashkenazi
Very very improbable. The Ashkenazi came anywhere near "Khazaria" only after the First Divide of Poland. Pavel -- Pavel Iosad pavel_iosad@mail.ru Is mall a mharcaicheas am fear a bheachdaicheas --Scottish proverb

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