Relay: 16. From Vogu to Hatasoe

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Patrick Dunn wrote:
>
> Here's what I got from Terry:
> ----snip------
> And this is what I made of it:
>
> tobo-sabo senoomaka oakave pede semufazeono
>
> selogadetea kape tikie
> selopasua
> pazhue radumea sapoteapo
> selopasua
> selopasua kateatu oade senea pula.
> Opa moniova <<i tobo
> netapasu nehasatu>>
>
> Upe ralozotea tete
> selohivia
> enpuziono senlotevua beloe
> selohivia
> tobo-sabo senihivia motuguva dono
> Opa moniova <<i tobo
> netahivi nehasatu>>
>
> Smooth Translation:
>
> The great father gives words (i.e., tells) about story-making.
>
> He makes a little wind strong.
> He hears it.
> Water grows food.
> He hears it.
> He hears from afar and begins to be sad.
> Thus we say: "O, Father
> Hear us well!"
>
> Trees make a healthy house.
> He sees it.
> Children fear the dark.
> He sees it.
> The great father sees that we have sex with our mate.
> Thus we say: "O, Father
> See us well!"
>
> Vocabulary
>
> beloe --  night.
> dono -- a person with whom one has strong emotional ties, and with whom
>         one chooses to raise children, whether adopted or "natural".
>         "Mate", but without the connotation of exclusivity.  (Again, an
>         arbitrary choice, because it's the closest I can come to the
> original)
> gadea -- to be strong
> guva -- to have sex with for the purpose of reproduction
> hivia -- to see (hivi -- informal imperative)
> i -- vocative particle "O"
> kape -- wind
> katea -- to be far away, extreme, distant
> kave -- word
> mea -- to grow (transitive)
> nea -- to be, to exist (here, idiomatically, "to be about to, to begin
>         to")
> nehasa -- to be good, to be complete
> oade -- and
> omaka -- to give
> opa -- therefore, thus, so
> ova -- to say
> pasua -- to hear (pasu -- informal imperative)
> pazhue -- water (n.)
> pede -- about, concerning
> pula -- to be slightly sad, meloncholy (this is an arbitrary choice among
>         several verbs for "to be sad".  It has a connotation of
>         thoughtfulness and a certain bitter pleasure in sadness)
> puzia -- to be young.  Puziono means "child" ("being-young-one")
> saba -- to be big, great (sabo -- active animate participal)
> sapoteapo -- food (lit. the thing that is eaten)
> semufazea -- to tell a story (semu-fazea = story-make) (semufazeono --
>         gerund)
> tete -- a hut built out of reeds and mud (here, "house")
> tevua  -- to fear, transitive
> tikia -- to be small (tikie -- active inanimate participal)
> tobo - father
> upe -- tree
> zoa -- to be healthy
>
> Prefixes, suffixes, and infixes
>
> Pronominal prefixes would probably be easiest given in a table.  I don't
> necessarily use all of them here, but at least this way we're not missing
> any
>
>                 subjective                      objective
> person  singular        plural          singular        plural
> first   o-              mo-             -a-             -ta-
> second  ne-             ne-             -ken-           -ken-
> 3rd ani. se-            sen-            -du-            -tu-
> 3rd ina. ra-            ran-            -lo-            -no-
> relative        ni-                             -ni-
>
> The relative particle "ni" is similar to "that".  Here it occurs to
> introduce direct quoted speech.
>
> ani. = animate
> ina. = inanimate
>
> oa- inanimate plural prefix (optional)
> en- animate plural prefix (optional)
>
> -tu adverbial suffix -- turns a verb into an adverb
> -ono gerund -- turns a verb into a substantive
>
> Infix
>
> -te-    with active verbs, makes them passive (stative) e.g. mesha "to
> love" metesha "to be loved"
>
>         with stative verbs, makes them active (causative) e.g. nehasa "to
>         be good" nehatesa "to make good"
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Here's what I got from Terry:
----snip------

ugutsu pobapon otsreduku yutazha

usrechol vahyaton.
uslish ahare nola.
usrevrost huda kapleshto.
uslish ahare nola.
mbele ahare, go uchaslizhal.
go ugu glu di, pabapon ya,
daslishkal olzh gla.

usregnesn tiwi hwisho.
uvihd ahare nola.
uhu abasha uhpida lwochyuduku.
uvihd ahare nola.
uvihd pobapon otsuka abloshav.
go ugu glu di, pabapon ya,
davihthkal olzh gla.

--

And this is what I made of it:

tobo-sabo senoomaka oakave pede semufazeono

selogadetea kape tikie
selopasua
pazhue radumea sapoteapo
selopasua
selopasua kateatu oade senea pula.
Opa moniova <<i tobo
netapasu nehasatu>>

Upe ralozotea tete
selohivia
enpuziono senlotevua beloe
selohivia
tobo-sabo senihivia motuguva dono
Opa moniova <<i tobo
netahivi nehasatu>>

Smooth Translation:

The great father gives words (i.e., tells) about story-making.

He makes a little wind strong.
He hears it.
Water grows food.
He hears it.
He hears from afar and begins to be sad.
Thus we say: "O, Father
Hear us well!"

Trees make a healthy house.
He sees it.
Children fear the dark.
He sees it.
The great father sees that we have sex with our mate.
Thus we say: "O, Father
See us well!"


Vocabulary

beloe --  night.
dono -- a person with whom one has strong emotional ties, and with whom
        one chooses to raise children, whether adopted or "natural".
        "Mate", but without the connotation of exclusivity.  (Again, an
        arbitrary choice, because it's the closest I can come to the
original)
gadea -- to be strong
guva -- to have sex with for the purpose of reproduction
hivia -- to see (hivi -- informal imperative)
i -- vocative particle "O"
kape -- wind
katea -- to be far away, extreme, distant
kave -- word
mea -- to grow (transitive)
nea -- to be, to exist (here, idiomatically, "to be about to, to begin
        to")
nehasa -- to be good, to be complete
oade -- and
omaka -- to give
opa -- therefore, thus, so
ova -- to say
pasua -- to hear (pasu -- informal imperative)
pazhue -- water (n.)
pede -- about, concerning
pula -- to be slightly sad, meloncholy (this is an arbitrary choice among
        several verbs for "to be sad".  It has a connotation of
        thoughtfulness and a certain bitter pleasure in sadness)
puzia -- to be young.  Puziono means "child" ("being-young-one")
saba -- to be big, great (sabo -- active animate participal)
sapoteapo -- food (lit. the thing that is eaten)
semufazea -- to tell a story (semu-fazea = story-make) (semufazeono --
        gerund)
tete -- a hut built out of reeds and mud (here, "house")
tevua  -- to fear, transitive
tikia -- to be small (tikie -- active inanimate participal)
tobo - father
upe -- tree
zoa -- to be healthy


Prefixes, suffixes, and infixes

Pronominal prefixes would probably be easiest given in a table.  I don't
necessarily use all of them here, but at least this way we're not missing
any

                subjective                      objective
person  singular        plural          singular        plural
first   o-              mo-             -a-             -ta-
second  ne-             ne-             -ken-           -ken-
3rd ani. se-            sen-            -du-            -tu-
3rd ina. ra-            ran-            -lo-            -no-
relative        ni-                             -ni-

The relative particle "ni" is similar to "that".  Here it occurs to
introduce direct quoted speech.

ani. = animate
ina. = inanimate

oa- inanimate plural prefix (optional)
en- animate plural prefix (optional)

-tu adverbial suffix -- turns a verb into an adverb
-ono gerund -- turns a verb into a substantive

Infix

-te-    with active verbs, makes them passive (stative) e.g. mesha "to
love" metesha "to be loved"

        with stative verbs, makes them active (causative) e.g. nehasa "to
        be good" nehatesa "to make good"




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