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Valdyan alphabet (was: Re: Spanish alphabet)

From:Irina Rempt-Drijfhout <ira@...>
Date:Saturday, September 25, 1999, 6:25
On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Herman Miller wrote:

> On Fri, 24 Sep 1999 01:58:01 -0500, Carlos Thompson > <carlos_thompson@...> wrote:
> >How about Dutch where <ij> is between <x> and <z>? > > I only have the "Teach Yourself" Dutch dictionary, which alphabetizes "ij" > between "ie" and "ik".
That's a long-standing controversy in Dutch, whether "ij" is one letter (some people even use a Dutch typewriter or computer keyboard that has "ij" next to "p"; the glyph is horrible, it's Alt-0152 in the Windows-1252 character set) or two letters. I hold that it's one letter written with two symbols, like "ll" and "ch" in Welsh. My maiden name is "Drijfhout" and people always had to look in both places when looking it up in an address list. I used to alphabetize transcribed Valdyan the more or less European way: a b c ch d dh e f g gh h i j l lh m n o p r rh s sh t th u v y z zh but now I've worked out the Valdyan order of letters, it is: a y i e o u p b f v m t d th dh n l lh c g ch gh h r rh s sh z zh j that is, first vowels, then consonants approximately from front to back, and the sibilants come at the tail. Note that 'j' is pronounced /j/ (as in "you") in most dialects, but /dZ/ in the far west (as in "Joe"). Irina Varsinen an laynynay, saraz no arlet rastynay. (myself) (English) (Nederlands)