Re: OT: Kelenala (was Re: OT: Programmed/Hand made music (was: Random word generators (was Re: Worthwhile Engelang Goal)))

Hi!

"David J. Peterson" <dedalvs@...> writes:
> Henrik wrote:
> <<
> But then, it's not so much a language than a language puzzle or
> construction kit.  You could not use it to communicate without a
> grammar, of course.
>  >>
>
> Referring to Kelenala.  I would object to this.  Kelenala is no
> more a language puzzle/construction kit than a real live pidgin
> or creole.
Ah, ok.  I misunderstood.

> That's what the intent of the project was: To simulate (in fast
> motion) the evolution of a creole.  Rather than having a real
> language as a lexifier, though, I just created a list of common
> words that would probably be borrowed into a creole (plus some
> nouns/expressions that I just happened to want to put in there).
> The result is supposed to be like a real creole.  During
> pidginization, speakers are encountered with a language they don't
> know, so they basically take forms they can recognize and hold onto
> and try to fit them into their idea of what the grammar of a
> language needs to be (with influences from their own language, the
> lexifier language, and from external factors).  As time goes on, it
> creolizes, though, and becomes its own system.  That's what I was
> aiming for.
Yeah, now I understand.

Wouldn't it be nice to see how it really evolves, then?  Are you going
to simulate that or construct it?  Do the creolisation?

**Henrik

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