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Re: OT: Kelenala (was Re: OT: Programmed/Hand made music (was: Random word generators (was Re: Worthwhile Engelang Goal)))

From:Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>
Date:Thursday, June 9, 2005, 19:40

"David J. Peterson" <dedalvs@...> writes:
> Henrik wrote: > << > But then, it's not so much a language than a language puzzle or > construction kit. You could not use it to communicate without a > grammar, of course. > >> > > Referring to Kelenala. I would object to this. Kelenala is no > more a language puzzle/construction kit than a real live pidgin > or creole.
Ah, ok. I misunderstood.
> That's what the intent of the project was: To simulate (in fast > motion) the evolution of a creole. Rather than having a real > language as a lexifier, though, I just created a list of common > words that would probably be borrowed into a creole (plus some > nouns/expressions that I just happened to want to put in there). > The result is supposed to be like a real creole. During > pidginization, speakers are encountered with a language they don't > know, so they basically take forms they can recognize and hold onto > and try to fit them into their idea of what the grammar of a > language needs to be (with influences from their own language, the > lexifier language, and from external factors). As time goes on, it > creolizes, though, and becomes its own system. That's what I was > aiming for.
Yeah, now I understand. Wouldn't it be nice to see how it really evolves, then? Are you going to simulate that or construct it? Do the creolisation? **Henrik


David J. Peterson <dedalvs@...>