Re: SoCal vowels (was Re: sending mail to the list)

--- J Matthew Pearson <pearson@...> wrote:
> Steg Belsky wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2 May 2001 18:22:57 EDT David Peterson
> <DigitalScream@...>
> > writes:
> >
> > >     I realized at the time that it was kind of a
> joke, yet...as I
> > > sounded it out and did over and over again, I
> found I do have two
> > different
> > > vowels in "put" and "book": my lips are rounded
> with "put" and they
> > definitely
> > > are not with "book".  Did I just invent this
> when I saw that?  Does any
> > > other native English speaker have this?  Any
> native Southern California
> > English
> > > speaker?
> >
> > I have it too... it seems to be connected to the
> aspiration on the /p/ of
> > "put".  So it's more a feature of the preceding
> consonant than anything
> > tied to the vowel.
>
> This is an interesting hypothesis.  So do you have
> the same contrast between
> "could" (more rounded) and "good" (less rounded)?
> We should test this
> systematically:
> If Steg's guess is right, then the vowels in column
> A should all sound the
> same, and the vowels in column B should all sound
> the same, and the vowels in
> column A should sound different from the vowels in
> column B...
>
>   A        B
>   put      book
>   took     look
>   could    good
>   soot     rook
>   foot     crook
>   should
>   shook
>   cook
>   hook
Definitely list A initial consonants require a
stronger aspiration (except perhaps, soot), whereas
list B initial consonants do not.  As far as the
vowel/s, though, they must be the same.  (John C, what
would the proper notation on above vowel be?)


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